Head-up display heads up pilot

Ouch... that's a new one to me. I didn't even realize the airlines are using HUD's.

Slightly off topic, but this audio tape may be an example (other communications were clipped out so don't know for sure).

I've noticed a lot of fast talking coms from both pilots and ATC in recent years. I grew up in NY, so I'm familiar with deciphering fast talk, and understand when the frequency is jammed (i.e., during push times) non-stop and often non-standard fast talk is common.

Having to request ATC to say it again to assure accuracy and mutual understanding negates the need to fast talk in the first place, while also introducing an increased chance misunderstandings.

Recently experienced a fast-talking tower controller that spoke so fast I had to follow up two times requesting clarifications. I was the only active plane on or anywhere in proximity to the airport, and ground and tower frequencies were dead... as if this tower operator's style of streaming out a list of information and instructions in the shortest amount of time is a badge of competency and achievement.

Maybe just too much caffeine?
 
Smacking him on the head and he started throwing up (last few sentences) ? I've been wacked on the head but never that hard!
 
Rick A said:
as if this tower operator's style of streaming out a list of information and instructions in the shortest amount of time is a badge of competency and achievement
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It isn’t, it may be necessary when its busy but when times are slow, it doesn’t do anyone any good, especially when you have to repeat yourself. I can’t remember the number of trainees that I’ve sent downstairs with a notebook and asked them to replay themselves on the recording and write down the clearances they just broadcast in real time. When they come back upstairs, they have that, “I understand now” look on their face. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
 
Rick A said:
Ouch... that's a new one to me. I didn't even realize the airlines are using HUD's.

Slightly off topic, but this audio tape may be an example (other communications were clipped out so don't know for sure).

I've noticed a lot of fast talking coms from both pilots and ATC in recent years. I grew up in NY, so I'm familiar with deciphering fast talk, and understand when the frequency is jammed (i.e., during push times) non-stop and often non-standard fast talk is common.

Having to request ATC to say it again to assure accuracy and mutual understanding negates the need to fast talk in the first place, while also introducing an increased chance misunderstandings.

Recently experienced a fast-talking tower controller that spoke so fast I had to follow up two times requesting clarifications. I was the only active plane on or anywhere in proximity to the airport, and ground and tower frequencies were dead... as if this tower operator's style of streaming out a list of information and instructions in the shortest amount of time is a badge of competency and achievement.

Maybe just too much caffeine?
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I thought it was handled pretty well but I'd be a bit miffed if I've declared an emergency and still getting minimum speed assignments on final.
 
Rick A said:
Ouch... that's a new one to me. I didn't even realize the airlines are using HUD's.
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Southwest has been using the HUD since 1995. The HUD is what they use for their
CAT III approaches
 
And they are hand flown cat 3 approaches, down to 50 feet.
 
Alaska has HUDs on their 737s, too. They stay qualified for both autoland and HUD CAT II/III approaches for redundancy at their Alaskan and PNW airports. Many airlines choose one or the other but not both.

All, I believe, B787s have dual HUDs.
 
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