Great landing...

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  1. Kelvin

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    Great job on the landing,even stopped the prop,looks like it might have had a prop strike,but minimal damage overall.
     
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    That one really is close to a 'that'll buff right out'. Depending on his deductible and prop. He may not have a claim.
     
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    Yeah, that was a 10/10! I didn't know there were Bo drivers who knew how to do a tail-low landing.
     
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    Pretty close...if the plane didn't get beat up getting off of the runway, it looks like it should be in pretty good shape....

    I don't see a prop strike...by the time the nose get to the runway it is stopped completely.

     
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    The guys who jacked my plane were very careful. I had to direct them where to put the airbags because they weren't sure and were taking kinda of long figuring it out.
     
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    I've repaired the lower cowl on a Bonanza that had a similar incident. It was a PITA that I hope never to have to do again.
     
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    Prop was stopped but at angle, and got bumped up (and probably damaged a bit) when it hit the ground.
     
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    Yes it did. That was my airplane. The prop should dress out so I am told.

    I am looking for gear doors and cowl bowl as well as the retract rods. The aft rod broke causing the nose gear to stay in the well.
     
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    What about the crank?

    It obviously took a hit, and not in the nice torsion direction.
     
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    Nice job. I'd be interested in seeing a picture of the failed rod. Do you know why it failed?
     
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    i guess I should have said prop strike to mean one in the sense a tear down and inspection is required...I hope that is not the case in this incident.
     
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    No, the rotational energy of the prop had stopped, all that is required is to do a runnout check on the crank flange. If that is ok, no further tear down needed.
     
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    I was under the impression that any time there was a prop strike, regardless, it required a tear down. Didn't used to be that way.

    As it is, I don't see how that particular landing could have done any sort of damage to the engine. As far as prop strike go, that was very mild.
     
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    Nope, when there is a sudden change in rotational speed from what I remember as it applies to the crank and engine stuff. The prop however is a different subject, there is more involved there.
     
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    The FAA told me that an engine tear down was not necessary. The prop shop says this prop can be dressed.
    Here are some pics of the broken aft retract rod (caused by the seizing of the fwd retract rod)
     

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    Mike, great job on handling the landing.
     
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    Thanks.
    This airplane is a pleasure to fly.
    Hopefully I can get her fixed and back into the air
     
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    I saw you were looking for parts...are they hard to find for this airframe?
     
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    That is really good news.
     
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    Mike,

    FAR less damage there than the one I repaired that was pranged on the nose wheel. Not gonna cost an arm and a leg.
     
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    A couple of fingers, maybe. :D
     
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    Glad you didn't end up a fireball. Did you ran the fuel out before landing?

    Good job.
     
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    Good job Mike.

    Got a chuckle of you looking down off the back of the wing seeing there was a bigger drop there than usual.

    Nice of the firefighter to give a handshake, too.
     
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    Seriously? Yes, it is best to shut off the fuel once you're stopped, but I don't think I've ever seen a "normal" gear-failure landing resulting in a fire, unless some poor judgement (like landing on a single main) ended up in a cartwheel (and even that is exceptionally rare).

    On the prop - be sure to get that balanced after it is cleaned up.
     
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    Just wondering if it's best to run the fuel out. I wasn't serious about the fireball comment.
     
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    Theoretically, yes it is good to shut off the fuel, but it is best to get out of the plane as quickly as possible too. I wouldn't be pulling out the "after emergency landing checklist" and reviewing it before getting out of the plane. If you remember to close the fuel valve, it's a bonus.

    As Rod Machado lectures in some of his presentations, the most expensive plane you've ever flown is worth the value of your insurance deductible, which for most small GA policies is between $0 and $100. It's great if you can get out of the situation with minimal damage to the aircraft, but the most expensive parts to repair are flesh, bone and blood.
     
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    Interesting, thanks. What was the cause of seizing of the front rod? In what manner did it seize?