Any ideas why some of the Garmin products are on sale, and not just a sale but looks like a fire sale. GTR 205, the COM radio retails $2900 but is on sale for less than $900! Now I have to find someone to legally install it in the cherokee.
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Any mechanic can legal install this and provided you purchase it from an authorized Garmin reseller you can access all the factory manuals, etc. directly from Garmin.
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Where do you see it priced like that?
This assumes they want to.
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A Father’s Day sale in the fall might be a clue.
Domain was registered 1 week ago lol. Definitely not a real seller.
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Heh, yeah, our work proxy blocked the site entirely.
MIFlyer
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of course I just bought one before this.
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It's not too late to give your money to scammers if you really want to.
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As others have mentioned, this is clearly a scam site.
A quick search pops up a couple of other obvious Garmin scam sites ("garmin-company.us" and "garmin-official.us") that were registered via the same domain registrar, and they have pages that look (nearly) identical to the one you linked to. There are probably others as well.
This is a common and ongoing problem. So much so that Garmin has a page on their (legit) website warning people about such fraudulent sites: https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=4icYIjAARa93zVu9Y6p1X6
One relevant excerpt from there:
Are you sure? That second one looks pretty official...
(now excuse me while I go register "real-garmin.us" and put some money into my offshore retirement accounts)
WhichWays_Up
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Instructions unclear. Bought an entire Garmin panel for $10,000 off that site, I'm now the King of Uganda....
I guess you don't use the web that much...
Take a look at the top of the page and note you're at "garmin-life.us" and you are NOT at garmin.com.
I would love for that to be the plot twist. The site is real, but the only maps that can be loaded without a $7500 upgrade are the ones for Uganda.
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With all the data the search sites hoover-up, one would think that they could determine if a site is a scammer.
I'm no lawyer, but I would think a search engine has some sort of duty-of-care to avoid showing scam sites.
I'm no lawyer, but I would think a search engine has some sort of duty-of-care to avoid showing scam sites.
Correct, you are not a lawyer. You do have a good imagination though.
aHA! I went to Garmin's website and followed the links to the GTR 205. You are absolutely correct, it's a scam. Definitely too good to be true.
This website: https://garmin-life.us/product/gtr-205/
Garmin's website: https://www.garmin.com/en-US
On the other hand, the price on the real Garmin site has gone down to $1900 while it's still $2500 to $2600 on Spruce and Pacific Coast. Guess they have to get rid of the inventory.
Cap'n Jack
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Your statement is correct, but how does RIAA keep the search engines from showing links to pirated movies and music? It's probably that RIAA has enough clout to force google, but a scammed user doesn't.Correct, you are not a lawyer. You do have a good imagination though.
WhichWays_Up
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If that site WAS legit I would be far more broke than I am .......
RIAA has international copyright laws behind their efforts. Section 230 protects google from any other 3rd party postings since they are only an electronic "bulletin board".
$1900 is for the remote-mount experimental version. You sure that's the one you want?
It's not so much that the RIAA has clout, but it has the DMCA. For the most part google doesn't actively police links, but they do have a legal requirement (in the US and other places) to remove links from search results when a request is made. The RIAA actively searches for distribution of copywritten material and files those requests with google, not the other way around. The result is that google will show you a banner when search results have been modified as a result.
Here is an example of one of those complaints: https://lumendatabase.org/notices/73714416#
Cap'n Jack
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Thank you for the explanation and the example.
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The recording industry is also strongly motivated by (potential) lost revenue. Not every user who pirates a song would have legitimately paid for that song if the pirating option was unavailable, but some users would. And we're talking thousands and thousands of users, and up to dozens or hundreds of songs per user. It adds up.
The number of pilots who have fallen for a multi-thousand dollar avionics buy scam is probably in the hundreds, if that. And many of those either wouldn't have pulled the trigger at regular price anyway, or else will lick their wounds and eventually buy the radio legitimately, so they're not really lost sales. I seriously doubt many pilots are scrimping up enough pennies to just barely buy a $900 radio, and then giving up when they learn they've been scammed.
So Garmin will eventually make all the sales anyway. No real incentive for them to expend resources to stop the scammers beyond posting a "don't fall for scams" page on their website like I linked to above.
The number of pilots who have fallen for a multi-thousand dollar avionics buy scam is probably in the hundreds, if that. And many of those either wouldn't have pulled the trigger at regular price anyway, or else will lick their wounds and eventually buy the radio legitimately, so they're not really lost sales. I seriously doubt many pilots are scrimping up enough pennies to just barely buy a $900 radio, and then giving up when they learn they've been scammed.
So Garmin will eventually make all the sales anyway. No real incentive for them to expend resources to stop the scammers beyond posting a "don't fall for scams" page on their website like I linked to above.
I had some suspicions, as there is no contact information on the spam page. This is going to make an excellent case study for my beginning cyber class later this semester. I'm going to display the spam page and have them determine if it's real or not.
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Really? Please tell me you're joking about the "for my beginning cyber class" and that you really don't teach a class.
If the comment was real and you think you're going to, DON'T as you have NO CLUE. First thing you do with a site or an email, look at the URL... That's not even 101, that's more 4 or 5th grade.
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That's for a court of law, not life in general. Even that attitude brings your teaching credentials into question. You should not be telling folks to assume all websites are legit until proven otherwise. Instead, you should always have your spidey-sense on high alert, and if anything, lean toward suspecting trouble vs. assuming innocence.
Not where the Internet is concerned. Do you have any ideal what one click can do to someone's system and then potential their livelihood????? And by system I mean your home computer, laptop AND cellphone.
And you've answered my question about your credentials in teaching any kind of cyber class. Don't.