Garmin Pilot: Android vs Apple

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  1. smv

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    Yah, there are other threads but those I coud find specifically concerning the differences between the two platforms are quite old and I did not want be be shot down for bringing up an old thread from the dead. :D

    I have been an Android user since around 2009ish, so pretty much from their beginning. The last Apple product I used was called an "Apple IIe" so I have become ignorant of most things Apple (except for the fact that more than one mouse button confuses them... ;))

    I have been using Garmin Pilot on Samsung Galaxy tablets for four or five years now (forget exactly when I started)

    Recenty I have been given the opportunity to borrow a Gen 5 iPad to test GP. The reason I wanted to do this was because even though I have a very new Galaxy Tab S4, GP just seems to creeeep along and sometimes gets very unresponsive. I wanted to see if the performance of GP on an iPad would justify the 08. to 1.1 AMUs necessary to acquire one.

    What I learned is that there is very obviously a reason why the Android version is so slow to catch updates and bug fixes (ie: there is an issue with logbook reports that causes the app to comletely crash whenever it is accessed. It has happened from the very begining and I have reported it multiple times but it has NEVER been addresed.)

    It is painfully apparent that ALL of the programmer resources at the Garmin Pilot devlopment branch are being dedicated to adding new features to the Apple version of the app and hardly anything is being directed at even FIXING the broken parts of the Android version, let alone adding new features.

    Given the vast differences in features and performance between the two platforms it is absolutely unconscionable that Garmin is charging anything at all, let alone the full rate, for the Android version of this app.

    It has almost come to the point where my testing may have had an opposite effect in that instead of investing in an iPad, I may just dump Garmin completely and start using one of the many other options out there.
     
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    Garmin Pilot was the reason I started using iDevices. Now that I use Apple products, I like them but totally understand why people would want to stick with Android. If I had it to start over, I probably would have gone the ForeFlight route on an iPad just because it's the most popular and the iPad seems more stable. ForeFlight would also give me a cheaper alternative to ADSB in with the Stratus/Sentry.
     
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    Some iPad questions for you:

    How much per year is ForeFlight for the complete IFR package?

    Where the hell is the "Back" button?

    How do I share files (specifically pictures) through Bluetooth?

    o_O
     
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    I just looked up ForeFlight and it looks like the pro-plus subscription is $200/year. That will give you geo-referenced approach plates. I have that in Garmin Pilot and would have a tough time flying IFR without it.

    There is no "back" button on iDevices. The older iPads/iPhones have a single button that basically is the same as a back button but I know the new stuff doesn't. If it has a button, you can double click the button and it shows all open apps which allows you to select the one you want.

    If you're sharing a photo with another iPhone, you can use something called Airdrop. If it's not an apple device, you're better off sending it via email or txt.

    Like I said, there's some things about apple devices that I'm not a fan of. Another thing that I hate it iTunes. It just never seems to work right for me. In fact, I've given up on owning music. If I want to hear a specific song, I go to youtube or spotify.
     
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    Thank you for those answers. Did not know about the double-click thingy. I will give that a shot next time I am using the tablet.

    The only thing I am using it for is to test GP so I have no email or texting set up on it... I had a screenshot I wanted to share but had no way of getting it from the iPad to my account connected devices.
     
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    If you have access to a computer, you can connect it and download the pictures. Good luck!!!
     
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    I spoke to Garmin a while back, and they made it clear they don't care too much for the Android version. I wonder why they even bother releasing a buggy software in the first place.

    Unlike you, however, I didn't take the i-Pad route. Instead, I switched to Avare. Although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of Foreflight, it is free and has pretty much everything I need. I also get the GPS without having to pay extra for it, or rely on the ADS-B receiver. I fly with Avare in in IFR and in IMC and I don't have any concerns whatsoever.
     
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    Yet another example of Android users being kicked in the nuts while Apple users are fawned over by Garmin. This is an issue that has been happening from the very begining. Reported with each new release but STILL not working properly. This is what happens when I hit "Update All".

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