Garmin G5s for VFR flight only

Discussion in 'Avionics and Upgrades' started by Dave Arata, Aug 6, 2019.

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How many of you would purchase Garmin G5s for VFR only flight?

Poll closed Aug 13, 2019.
  1. Sure, why not? I want the latest and greatest gizmos in my panel.

    36.4%
  2. That makes no sense at all! Eyes outside!

    12.7%
  3. I was thinking of getting rid of my vacuum system, so I'd consider the option.

    50.9%
  1. asicer

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    Or an AV-20S as a middle ground. GTX345 also has built in AHRS.

    Night is a valid point, but I'm not sure a G5 is that much better for that than the above alternatives. I'm also not connecting the dots on how the 1000 mile distance makes a difference.

    After thinking about it a couple days, I'm going to have to side with @EdFred . As a matter of fact we were seriously thinking about doing just what he suggested as the theoretically IFR panel wasn't. The thought of yanking everything until we could get a new panel sounded really appealing at one point.
     
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    A long trip increases the chances you end up in weather or after dark. And no, I don’t mean it’s normal to get into a cloud in VFR, but it could happen some day. I have gotten home after dark when I didn’t plan it.
     
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    Ok serious question. How does a G5 help at night vs a panel lit dg/hsi and attitude indicator?

    (Electrical failure notwithstanding.)
     
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    Don't know who you were talking to, but I was just talking about an AI and turn coordinator rather than none.
     
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    Oh, I was operating under the premise that there was at least an AI in the airplane the G5 was going to take the place of. That (the AI) is an instrument I would want at night even VFR.
     
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    I fly with my iPad front and center bluetoothed to my Garmin GDL50 (probably the same technology as the GTX345). This summer I made a couple flights in very smokey skies. Visibility was easily 5 miles, but there was no horizon. I was on instruments to keep it straight and level. No problem, I thought, I've got synthetic vision on my iPad. I'm a 14,000 hour airline pilot with hours upon hours flying behind the EFIS blue/brown display and I found it somewhat difficult to keep wings level. I think there's a lag in the attitude reference- probably minute, small enough to pass for advisory attitude information, but not instantaneous like what I'm used to. Certainly not like a vacuum AI or, hopefully, the G5. Which is why I'm looking at putting a G5 in my VFR panel this winter.

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    Vacuum pumps are $500+ every 500 hours. DG and AI overhauls are similar prices, and happen often. I've got a friend who has put 3 DGs in his Cherokee in the last 2 years.

    G5s are well worth it.
     
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    I suspect either Bluetooth connection and/or the tablet graphics rendering is contributing to most of the lag.
     
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    Agree. I was finding that on my 172 I was replacing a vacuum pump each year or so and overhauling one gyro instrument. The plane flies 400-500 hours each year. The G5s in the plane now have been rock solid and four hours of battery each really is a great peace of mind. Vacuum gyros...I trust them about, um, not at all.

    Also, night...really, a backlit screen is far easier to read at night, though you need to be careful with the brightness to ensure you don't kill your night vision. I have that problem with the fuel gauge, which went digital when I went to CiES (another pricey but worth-it purchase). The G5s have really easy brightness adjustments, but the damn Aerospace Logic gauge is a nightmare. Wish the rheostat function was fully standardized so it could all just be controlled from the existing dimmer in the plane.
     
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    I have the same problem with a digital ammeter, the solution I found is to put a FAA approved scotch tape in it . Aerospace logic fuel indicator is being installed right now and as I understand there is a way to dim that via the top and bottom switches, but I agree, everything connected to 1 dimmer could have been way better option. Also these instruments doesn’t have a light sensor for auto dimming .... grr