Flight following - not sure why I didn't use it before

Discussion in 'Change to my Frequency...' started by samiamPA, Nov 10, 2020.

  1. denverpilot

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    How about skydiving ops? The ADS-B show which airplanes above you are tossing out meat bombs?

    BTDT. On FF. Multiple times.
     
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    Ditto. And as a backup / double check on active MOA’s, traffic, easy transition to approach controller, etc. Don’t leave home without it .
     
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    Around here I hear the aircraft on the radio before ATC tells me about them. And they’re NOTAMed.
     
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    They’re always on your frequency enroute, huh? That’s amazing.
     
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    The only freq I hear jump planes on is the flight following freq - where the jump plane is using ATC to help keep planes clear of the area.
     
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    Yup. I pick them up on my preflight and tune the radio to them when I get in range. Don't you?
     
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    Tune what in? Most of them are talking to Center. A few bomb airports but others bomb non-airports. Only way you’re “tuning” those is by utilizing FF.
     
  8. Salty

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    Some airports around here host skydiving on occasion and have no indication on the charts. Not sure how you’d magically know what to tune.
     
  9. TheFB

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    Wow, lotta opinions. I also use FF for any trip 50nm or more. I’m under a Bravo but I don’t think that is a factor. I like the communication and if there is a problem, we are already talking.

    Amazing how many don’t talk to atc. In a type group I was in, the local guy that set up the meet ups had to try and only use non towered fields or many would not come for fear of the controllers,,,,
     
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    When I was hauling jumpers I talked on the CTAF to make traffic calls always and talked to ATC when we were doing the free fall jumps from 14,000. The facility I called was dependent on who owned the airspace. Sometimes it was center and others it was an approach facility.

    Regardless of the jump pilots inclusion of ATC they should always be announcing on the CTAF for the airport.
     
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    snglecoil Pre-takeoff checklist

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    I personally know a CFII (headed to the airlines, at least pre-COVID) that never got flight following because he hated talking to ATC.
     
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    That is odd. Sounds like the kind of person that will not be happy at the airlines.
     
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    jordane93 Final Approach PoA Supporter

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    Or really happy when he does flights to Escanaba:)
     
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    I've witnessed a number of skydiving operations. They were all NOTAM'd and I listened to the pilots dropping the meatbombs. Suppose I could have missed one, though no one on FF ever warned me about them when I used it.
     
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    Yep. Notams are always accurate and you read every one, I’m sure. Rotfl
     
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    What's wrong with Escanaba?!?!?
     
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    Absolutely nothing....
     
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    I think that there are a lot of pilots in semi-rural/rural areas that have less congested airspace and never really learn to use ATC. If you’re strictly recreational and don’t fly into D/C/B airspace regularly you can basically never really need to talk to center/approach. I also work with a lot of ag guys, they really never need to talk to ATC. But yes, in a perfect world all pilots would be proficient speaking with ATC.
     
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    How do you talk to approach without getting FF? Why do they want to talk to you if they are not giving you a code and entering you to to their system? And if you are entered into the system, how are you not on FF?

    To get FF, I call up NY Approach. I do just listen to them sometimes if I am just flying around my home airport because I am right next to a busy jump zone and the jump planes talk to NY approach so I can hear when they are about to let the jumpers go. Sometimes I hear the jump plane getting a delay because of me (Blue Sky 1, unidentified traffic in the area, delay the jump), and I change course so they can jump. In those situations, I guess I could cold call NY App and let them know I am the unidentified traffic in the way, but they are usually so busy that you can hardly get through. So they don’t want random airplanes chatting to them without a code.