FedEx strikes again...

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by Half Fast, Mar 2, 2023.

  1. Half Fast

    Half Fast Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    11,000
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Display name:
    Half Fast
    Some time ago I sent an oil sample off to AvLab for analysis. FedEx got it from USPS on 1/30. For the past month it has bounced back and forth between Southaven, MS and Memphis, TN. They cannot seem to get the package into Lousisiana. For your amusement (and my frustration), here's the @$%$^& travel history:

    upload_2023-3-2_20-39-37.png

    I hate FedEx as much as I hate UPS and USPS. There's just no good answer.
     
  2. Checkout_my_Six

    Checkout_my_Six Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Messages:
    11,916
    Location:
    Maryland

    Display name:
    Check_my_Six
    FedEx sucks here too....they can never get the right house. I always get my neighbors stuff.....
     
  3. CJones

    CJones Final Approach

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    Messages:
    5,600
    Location:
    Jawjuh

    Display name:
    uHaveNoIdea
    Sounds like they're playing hide the weenie with the trailer it's on so they don't get dinged for dwell time in one particular facility.

    One of our local sort facilities in ATL is notorious for 'departing' and 'receiving' packages (I'm pretty sure they're just rescanning the trailer that's already physically in their yard) about 23.5 hrs apart. My guess (based on experience in warehouse operations management) is that their management team is measured on dwell time on the yard and anything over 24 hours raises a flag. So what do they do? Send a dude out with a scanner to 'depart' and then 'receive' the trailers right before the 24 hr mark so it doesn't show up on the report as being there for over 24 hrs.
     
  4. Half Fast

    Half Fast Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    11,000
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Display name:
    Half Fast

    I suspect that's what's going on here. I spent 20 minutes getting a FedEx human on the phone, and then all he could do was read from a script and tell me he had no further information. It's absolutely impossible to actually reach someone who can do anything about a problem.

    I called AvLab and they're going to see if they can do anything from their end.

    FedEx services customers like a bull services cows.
     
  5. GaryM

    GaryM Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2020
    Messages:
    1,984
    Location:
    New Jersey (KMMU)

    Display name:
    Gary M
    Losing an oil sample is rookie stuff for Fedex. That task was probably assigned to a new hire.

    In 2021, Fedex lost a rebuilt engine for my club's 172, somewhere between the engine shop in Illinois, and NJ. That's next-level stuff right there. Not a small envelope that slid under the seat and was overlooked, accomplishing this required an enterprising idiot with a forklift.

    The engine was located a few days later, but still...
     
    TCABM likes this.
  6. Half Fast

    Half Fast Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    11,000
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Display name:
    Half Fast

    Yeah, I remember that thread. I’m amazed you got it back. I figured it went to somebody’s airboat.

    AvLab tells me that FedEx collects all the boxes going to them in a bag and won’t deliver until the bag is filled. Apparently they rescan the bag every time they drop a new box into it.

    AvLab has since dropped that method since it was causing so many problems, but for now I wait and wait and wait....
     
  7. Ventucky Red

    Ventucky Red Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2013
    Messages:
    1,586

    Display name:
    Jon
    And yet, how many times do they get it right every day?
     
    Sluggo63 and SoonerAviator like this.
  8. murphey

    murphey Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    11,130
    Location:
    Colorado

    Display name:
    murphey
    FedEx screwed around with an overnight delivery. Didn’t show the next day or the next. Or the next.
    I found both the email and phone number for the FedEx VP of customer service. Got a return call in 30 min, delivery even faster. Delivery guy was NOT happy.
     
    Chrisgoesflying likes this.
  9. Half Fast

    Half Fast Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    11,000
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Display name:
    Half Fast

    Please post.
     
  10. murphey

    murphey Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    11,130
    Location:
    Colorado

    Display name:
    murphey
    Don’t have it anymore, would take me some time to dig it up,again. Start by looking for Fedex HQ the senior magt. Has pictures, too.
     
  11. Daleandee

    Daleandee En-Route

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2020
    Messages:
    4,731

    Display name:
    Dale Andee
    I remember when:

    "It absolutely, positively has to be there overnight!"

     
  12. lsaway

    lsaway Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2019
    Messages:
    411

    Display name:
    lsaway
    FedEx is so bad where I live. I buy items on Ebay. When it says seller uses FedEx, I find another seller.
     
  13. Arrow76R

    Arrow76R Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    371
    Location:
    Colorado Springs

    Display name:
    Arrow76r
    On 17 January I sent my oil sample to AvLab via their return shipping label. Since then the box has been in Mississippi numerous times then back to Memphis numerous times. Delivery dates have been posted only to be followed by "in transit" messages. IF the sample ever gets to AvLab it will be too old to be useful. I agree...FedEx and the "Smart Post" is totally worthless. AvLab suggested (via an insert in the shipping box) that if you want them to ever get the sample, pay for some other shipping firm.
     
  14. Half Fast

    Half Fast Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    11,000
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Display name:
    Half Fast

    Our samples are probably sitting next to each other in Memphis.
     
  15. Racerx

    Racerx En-Route

    Joined:
    May 15, 2020
    Messages:
    2,610

    Display name:
    Ernie
    Fed Ex is just effing dreadful.
     
    Half Fast likes this.
  16. Daleandee

    Daleandee En-Route

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2020
    Messages:
    4,731

    Display name:
    Dale Andee
    I recently had an order delivered by FedEx. It was humorous as it was reported to be on the truck and out for delivery between 11 & 2. I watched the driver pull up at the end of the driveway, search the truck, get out, walk around, check the address, get in the truck a speed away without making the delivery.

    I was thinking he's forgotten to load it but soon enough another FedEx truck came from another direction and he had the package on his vehicle. Amazingly enough it was not damaged and only a few minutes later than predicted to arrive. So I'll give them a few points ... this time.
     
  17. guest user

    guest user Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2021
    Messages:
    538

    Display name:
    just passing through
    I believe you're looking at the wrong metric here. Delivery performance is good and all, but how come no one is asking the really important question? How diverse and inclusive is FedEx? That really is the main point of any business and I hope FedEx is doing their part in this matter.

    * sincerity or sarcasm. YOU decide.
     
    Stan Bergey and SoonerAviator like this.
  18. Bob Noel

    Bob Noel Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2008
    Messages:
    20,891

    Display name:
    Bob Noel
  19. texasclouds

    texasclouds En-Route

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2018
    Messages:
    3,038
    Location:
    Bryan, Texas

    Display name:
    Mark
    But they saved that SW pax at AUS, bro…
     
  20. hindsight2020

    hindsight2020 Final Approach

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    6,015

    Display name:
    hindsight2020
    They'll quickly bark at you that they're a different "Fedex [_______]". Reminds me of the uber-triggering of the Field Ops and AMO peeps when I'd call them border patrol. hoo boy, like watching a S-300 ripple launch. :D
     
    Piperonca likes this.
  21. Zeldman

    Zeldman Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    15,954
    Location:
    high desert NM

    Display name:
    Billy
    In my small part of the world FedEx is the way to go. UPS takes too long with New Mexico being a foreign country and all....:lol:

    And USPS doesn't deliver outside the city limits. USPS doesn't offer overnight delivery here, I guess because the horses aren't that fast.....
     
  22. Getonit

    Getonit Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2013
    Messages:
    490

    Display name:
    Mark
    You guys are amateur bush league rookies when it comes to freight screwups for your Amazon/Wish orders…..now LTL is the true eff up of the delivery business.
     
    texasclouds likes this.
  23. Pinecone

    Pinecone Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    May 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,944
    Location:
    MD

    Display name:
    Pinecone
    FedEx handles 16.5 MILLION packages each day.

    Even if only one out of 10,000 have an issue, that is almost 2000 per day with issues.

    Personally, the only big issue I had with FedEx was trying to get them to hold a package at the office instead of trying to deliver a signature required, when I was not going to be home, but close to the office. They could only hold it after they tried to deliver it.
     
  24. cowman

    cowman Final Approach

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2012
    Messages:
    5,013
    Location:
    Danger Zone

    Display name:
    Cowman
    I’ve actually had surprisingly good luck with USPS as far as packages arriving where they’re supposed to and intact. They’re just not fast and their tracking is nearly useless.

    FedEx has always been the worst. I won’t use them if I have a choice.
     
  25. Half Fast

    Half Fast Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    11,000
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Display name:
    Half Fast
    Based on personal experience, I think it's much MUCH higher than that. Somewhere around 1 in 10 or 1 in 20.
     
  26. MauleSkinner

    MauleSkinner Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2005
    Messages:
    13,824
    Location:
    Wichita, KS

    Display name:
    MauleSkinner
    Good news is, I’m one of the other 9 or 19.
     
    guest user likes this.
  27. CJones

    CJones Final Approach

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    Messages:
    5,600
    Location:
    Jawjuh

    Display name:
    uHaveNoIdea
    Same. In my experience, I have had more FedEx packages that HAVE issues than ones that do not - and when I say 'issues', I mean delayed WEEKS (not just days or hours) or never delivered at all as it hits the death spiral of "arrived at sort facility -> departed sort facility -> arrived at (same) sort facility, lather, rinse, repeat", or my great experience of the Sheriff's Deputy finding the trolling motor I had ordered laying on the side of the road. Something that big doesn't just accidentally fall off the truck without a good nudge (and likely a call to a buddy to come pick up his new trolling motor on the side of the road).

    I also know that service across carriers is highly variable by region. ATL in general has seen a steady decline in both amount and quality of workforce over the past several years (pre-dating COVID), so it's no surprise that jobs that require both speed and a certain amount of attention to detail are struggling. The major sort centers are highly automated, but I'm pretty sure the local sorts - where the final-mile delivery trucks are loaded - are still a lot of 'If the label has these two letters on it, load it onto your truck'.
     
  28. Pinecone

    Pinecone Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    May 24, 2022
    Messages:
    1,944
    Location:
    MD

    Display name:
    Pinecone
    My experience is much better than yours. I have not had one package in about 40 years of using FedEx get delayed significantly (over a day) or lost. A couple where the package was damaged, but the contents were fine.
     
  29. Chrisgoesflying

    Chrisgoesflying Line Up and Wait PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    551
    Location:
    Too far north

    Display name:
    Chrisgoesflying
    ^^^ This

    I do this all the time when some company ****es me off. Have done it with Hertz, Enterprise, FedEx and UPS among others. I find someone higher up on LinkedIn, connect with them or extract their email address (there is a tool for that) and write to them. Most of the time it works and they resolve the issue fast.
     
  30. Half Fast

    Half Fast Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    11,000
    Location:
    Central Florida

    Display name:
    Half Fast

    This is the person at FedEx:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/briecarere/

    Any idea how to extract an email address?
     
  31. TCABM

    TCABM En-Route

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2013
    Messages:
    4,016

    Display name:
    3G
  32. Chrisgoesflying

    Chrisgoesflying Line Up and Wait PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    551
    Location:
    Too far north

    Display name:
    Chrisgoesflying