FAA Issues General Aviation Medical Rule

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  1. Brad Z

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    I'm still a little confused by this. My medical expires in August. I assume that I'll need to go for the "comprehensive medical evaluation" immediately, since there's nothing to show I've had one in the past 48 months?
     
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    But CFIs don't -FLY- for compensation. They -TEACH- for compensation.
    The way I read it, if you need a 2nd Class or higher, then this new deal won't work.
    I'll be interested to get clarification on it.


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    Looks like I will still need the 3rd class if I want to fly to the Bahamas!
     
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    This rule is applicable only to the person acting as the PIC. Thus, for any flight operated under this rule, the status of the medical certificate of any other pilot aboard who is not acting as the PIC is irrelevant. For example, flight instructors meeting the requirements of this rule may act as PIC while giving flight training without holding a medical certificate, regardless of whether the person receiving flight training holds a medical certificate. While flight training for compensation is considered “other commercial flying” for flight and duty requirements under parts 121 and 135, 29 “a certificated flight instructor who is acting as PIC and is receiving compensation for his or her flight instruction is exercising flight instructor privileges for the flight training being provided and is exercising private pilot privileges while acting as PIC of the flight.”
     
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    thank you......Brad. :D
     
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    It will be interesting to see how this portion of BasicMed will be interpreted:

    have been found eligible for special issuance of a medical certificate for certain specified mental health, neurological, or cardiovascular conditions, when applicable
     
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    Is that an excerpt Eggman? Source if it is please. Thanks.
     
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    I guess I need to keep my Class III if I'm flying cocaine back and forth from South America. Geesh.
     
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    Least of your worries would be a Class 3. :fingerwag::rofl:
     
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    Sounds like a decent compromise. 6 seats, day/night VFR/IFR etc.
    Should help get and keep people in the sky's.

    I havent read thru the whole rule yet, what does it say about ADD meds? Can those kids now get PPL without a huge pysch hassle?
     
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    Is that maximum 6 seats installed and 5 passengers or how the plane is registered? My Lance is 7 seats but I typically only keep 5 seats installed.
     
  15. Checkout_my_Six

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    people....empty seats don't count.
     
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    I'm curious...basically it says have a medical examine, but does not say that your physician can deny you or anything...am I misreading that? In another sentence, it says be under care by your physician for certain conditions. Is there something that is still a disqualifier or what?
     
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    It appears that a Student Pilot would still need a Medical Certificate initially, then the Driver's License provision would suffice going forward as long as they flew an aircraft under 6000#'s, under FL180 and only in the United States.

    Does that seem correct?
     
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    (From the BasicMed page)
    Basic Aircraft Requirements:
    • Any aircraft authorized under federal law to carry not more than 6 occupants
    • Has a maximum certificated takeoff weight of not more than 6,000 pounds
     
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    Just passed another physical. I can go to sleep for awhile.
     
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    A little confusing...

    A. Covered Aircraft Requirements of Section 2307 of FESSA

    Throughout section 2307, FESSA refers to a “covered aircraft.” Section 2307(j) of FESSA defines a covered aircraft as an aircraft that (1) is authorized under Federal law to carry not more than 6 occupants; and (2) has a maximum certificated takeoff weight of not more than 6,000 pounds.
     
  22. BGF_Yankee

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    To answer my own question...I guess each state will determine what is a medical issue?

    "Each State will determine what, if any, medical requirements or restrictions are necessary and associated with each driver’s license issued."

    "Any restrictions on a driver’s license (e.g., corrective lenses, prosthetic aids required, daylight driving only) also apply under this rule."
     
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    "The FAA recognizes that changes could be made to an aircraft’s type design. For example, an aircraft type certificated to carry more than 6 occupants may be altered to carry 6 or less occupants. In order to make such a change, that aircraft would have to obtain a new design approval, such as an STC or an ATC. So long as an aircraft’s design approval (i.e., TC, STC, or ATC) authorizes the aircraft to carry no more than 6 occupants, that aircraft would meet the requirement of section 2307(j)(1). "
     
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    Can you quote a source for that? Because in other FAA rules, it's the seats that count, not the people.

    Edit: I see others have beaten me to the question.
     
  25. Checkout_my_Six

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    well....it's very possible the good folks who did the FAA website screwed up.... :eek:

    https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=87125

    "... For example, pilots using BasicMed cannot operate an aircraft with more than six people onboard and the aircraft must not weigh more than 6,000 pounds....."
     
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    And to think I almost bought a turbo version of my NA plane that would have cost $100K that I would not have been able to use under the basicmed. Class 3 expires in October so looks like Im going to be happy at 17,500 and below!!
     
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    There's definitely a discrepancy in their wording. Because the link in that article points to this document which states this.

    https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/basic_med/
     
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    Me too, I'm good for 2 more years, Who knows what will happen by then?
     
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    I had my exam last July (2016), but turn 40 this Saturday...when is my next exam due?
     
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    So my legally blind friend still won't be able to fly solo......

    So much for reform.:loco:
     
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    I would assume July 2020.
     
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    Well this was a giant waste of time. It is basically the same as a 3rd class medical. I have to have a physical for work but is that considered "comprehensive"? I'll keep doing as I have been doing so there are no "interpretations" of the rules.
     
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    You do know what ass_u_me means right? ;):)
     
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    OK, the comprehensive physical calls for inspection of the anus. My third class did not. Now I have to think which way I want to go?
     
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    What is this "medical education course"?
    • Have completed a medical education course described in FESSA within the past 24 calendar months
     
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    Thursday at 1:30. You are welcome.
     
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    Oh please, is this actually quoted somewhere?? If so, that's too good not to share! lol
     
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    Yup. It is actually pointed out as it's own bullet point.
     
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    Oof. Tough call. "Hey, doc - think you could just uhhh...you know...maybe pencil whip that part of the exam? ::wink, wink::" :lol:
     
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    Oh, grow up. Getting your butt checked is an important part of living long enough to exercise your flight privileges. You should have been doing that with your family doc anyway.