FAA doing ramp checks at SnF

Bell206 said:
Unfortunately, the registration and N-number is an ICAO member requirement that is not optional and was actually one of the first rules of the settled on decades ago
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Does the FAA have discretion in how they choose to enforce the rule? Or in penalties imposed? For example, in the case of an ADSB-equipped aircraft, could the FAA require the owner to correct the N-numbers within the next 50 years or face a $5 fine? Or is the FAA obligated to ground the plane immediately?
 
Neal Howard said:
How does the inspector *know* that those particular individual aircraft have max cruise CAS of greater than 180 kts?
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The 50% power cruise speed of the Harmon Rocket is 186 kts. Feels pretty justified to ask the question.
 
Half Fast said:
Does the FAA have discretion in how they choose to enforce the rule? Or in penalties imposed? For example, in the case of an ADSB-equipped aircraft, could the FAA require the owner to correct the N-numbers within the next 50 years or face a $5 fine? Or is the FAA obligated to ground the plane immediately?
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Discretion to a point. However, the penalties and fines are determined by established guidance. Unfortunately, you get no points for being stupid, but they could let him return home on a SFP or similar. Have also seen some people stick on a new set of numbers to get home. Regardless, this is as simple as it gets rule-wise, yet some people still think those rules don't apply to them.
 
I've since confirmed that the person I was told had been violated was in fact not. I'm not aware of any actual violations have occurred. I heard third party that over 100 people were warned.
 
I've wondered if the builder's DAR required him to add the N-Number to the tail, as the fuselage font wasn't considered acceptable....
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wanttaja said:
I've wondered if the builder's DAR required him to add the N-Number to the tail, as the fuselage font wasn't considered acceptable....
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I understand wanting to find a way to make 12" N numbers more aesthetic, but this is a great example of a wrong answer.
 
Salty said:
I've since confirmed that the person I was told had been violated was in fact not. I'm not aware of any actual violations have occurred. I heard third party that over 100 people were warned.
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You revived a 12-year-old thread instead of starting a new one and referencing the old one, so posters will read the first few posts and offer their two cents about an issue from a decade ago.
 
Lindberg said:
You revived a 12-year-old thread instead of starting a new one and referencing the old one, so posters will read the first few posts and offer their two cents about an issue from a decade ago.
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seems perfectly reasonable to me. Something re-occurred. Be honest, you would have likely criticized me for starting a new thread also.
 
Lindberg said:
You revived a 12-year-old thread instead of starting a new one and referencing the old one, so posters will read the first few posts and offer their two cents about an issue from a decade ago.
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I truly apologize for the obvious physical and psychological harm that my posting to an old thread caused you. It is my fondest wish that you recover quickly from this trauma and survive to live a long and happy life.
 
Salty said:
I truly apologize for the obvious physical and psychological harm that my posting to an old thread caused you. It is my fondest wish that you recover quickly from this trauma and survive to live a long and happy life.
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You should be apologizing to @bflynn for getting him to answer a question from someone who hasn't been seen in 9 years. :)
bflynn said:
The 50% power cruise speed of the Harmon Rocket is 186 kts. Feels pretty justified to ask the question.
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kyleb said:
What is interesting to me is that most of these aircraft are painted before they receive their FAA inspection before flight. The DAR is supposed to check for things like whether the N number meets reg's...
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Actually a lot of builders get the plane flyable in bare aluminum first with temporary numbers and have it inspected that way, so they can work out squawks first and/or fly it to the paint shop.
 
Diving in this cesspool.

I still don't know if there's ramp checks going on at SnF this year.
 
Dana said:
Actually a lot of builders get the plane flyable in bare aluminum first with temporary numbers and have it inspected that way, so they can work out squawks first and/or fly it to the paint shop.
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That was the part of my post you snipped. ;-)

But I think most are fully painted at inspection and first flight.
 
My friend's uncle's third cousin (by marriage) that empties the porta potties at SnF reported seeing black vans patrolling the grounds that had masked FAA Inspectors that were wearing black combat gear jump out and drag owners from their airplanes, cuff them and throw a hood over their heads while tossing them into the van and quickly driving away. Happened dozens of times. No ****!
 
Doc Holliday said:
My friend's uncle's third cousin (by marriage) that empties the porta potties at SnF reported seeing black vans patrolling the grounds that had masked FAA Inspectors that were wearing black combat gear jump out and drag owners from their airplanes, cuff them and throw a hood over their heads while tossing them into the van and quickly driving away. Happened dozens of times. No ****!
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he obviously wasn’t paying attention, as their mouths were duct taped before the hoods went on. I was an eyewitness to this in my imagination.


Although it might’ve just been the ones making animal noises on the radio.
 
Coincidently, my only ramp check in the U.S. happened at Lakeland, but that was 15 years ago and not during Sun-n-Fun. :)
 
Speaking of numbers, lots of numbers twos around here.
 
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