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Now let's see how long it takes to do the paper work to transfer the ownership of 7912T.
If they had it in hand today why didn't simply do the transfer?
 
Probably different departments plus it's the guvmit!
 
They're under no hurry as you have a temporary for 90 days. This is in stark contrast to the "your screwed" attitude if you fail to renew timely.
You can find the current processing date online somewhere. If you send them an email they will confirm when they received your paperwork and where they are in the processing queue. I did this last July when it seemed like my COA was taking forever.

we are processing documents received on approximately
February 27, 2017.
 
Imagine how fast a private business would go away if they had time to post on their website how far behind they were on everything, daily, and sometimes it was a half a month or a full month? LOL.

You gotta love it, being able to just say "We're just that slow..." on your website.
 
flyingron said:
They're under no hurry as you have a temporary for 90 days. This is in stark contrast to the "your screwed" attitude if you fail to renew timely.
You can find the current processing date online somewhere. If you send them an email they will confirm when they received your paperwork and where they are in the processing queue. I did this last July when it seemed like my COA was taking forever.

we are processing documents received on approximately
February 27, 2017.
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Only three weeks behind? When I was waiting for my change of ownership they were three MONTHS behind.
 
Hiring freeze right now so don't expect that to change.
 
mscard88 said:
Probably different departments plus it's the guvmit!
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^^^^ That.

- The envelope goes to a person who can read first. They determine what to do with it. They pull the check out and put it in the inbox of the person who can count (the money department).
- The check is deposited and once it iclears and they are happy with your fistful of dollars, they put it in the inbox of the person who can type.
- When she eventually gets to it, she types your change of registration into the big bad computer. Once that is done, she drops your papers in the inbox to the person who knows how to print.
- They print your new registration card and then they drop it in the inbox of the person who knows how to write.
- That person writes your address on an envelope, sticks in the registration cert and puts it in the inbox of the person who has not finished highschool.
- This poor sap grabs a stamp, licks it, sticks it on the envelope and drops it in the outbox.

The whole process takes 1-2 months. No kidding. :D
 
Sadly, you probably aren't too far off!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

BigBadLou said:
^^^^ That.

- The envelope goes to a person who can read first. They determine what to do with it. They pull the check out and put it in the inbox of the person who can count (the money department).
- The check is deposited and once it iclears and they are happy with your fistful of dollars, they put it in the inbox of the person who can type.
- When she eventually gets to it, she types your change of registration into the big bad computer. Once that is done, she drops your papers in the inbox to the person who knows how to print.
- They print your new registration card and then they drop it in the inbox of the person who knows how to write.
- That person writes your address on an envelope, sticks in the registration cert and puts it in the inbox of the person who has not finished highschool.
- This poor sap grabs a stamp, licks it, sticks it on the envelope and drops it in the outbox.

The whole process takes 1-2 months. No kidding. :D
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Back before they got the form letters automated, that's how the medical guys worked as well. The people who processed your paperwork couldn't possibly be expected to type anything, so they would dictate and it would go off to the typing pool (those who were chasing special issuances 20 years ago had the great anticipation when you were told your stuff was "in typing." It meant a response one way or another was coming).

Now automation generates the form letters with the offical FAA pablum without involving a typing pool.
 
flyingron said:
Back before they got the form letters automated, that's how the medical guys worked as well. The people who processed your paperwork couldn't possibly be expected to type anything, so they would dictate and it would go off to the typing pool (those who were chasing special issuances 20 years ago had the great anticipation when you were told your stuff was "in typing." It meant a response one way or another was coming).

Now automation generates the form letters with the offical FAA pablum without involving a typing pool.
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Sent our passports in 2 weeks ago, got them back today. so much for all depts being AFUed.
 
Brad Z said:
Hiring freeze right now so don't expect that to change.
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Excuses excuses. I've worked in private businesses with hiring freezes. We didn't get to say it on our website and whine about it, we got to stay late and finish each day's work. If customers sent in more than usual we'd be found at our desks well after normal closing time.

The lack of competition and resulting disregard for the work in bureaucracies is impressive to those of us who don't have such employment luxuries.

I got done working tonight about 45 minutes ago. It's 00:37. It was planned but it's still a sign we only do certain things to systems when they're not in use or in low use in IT when we can. Annoying customers is a good way to not be in business for very long, so a Friday night is a pretty good time to get stuff done.
 
I sent the registration application for my new Starduster in on 2/18, right now an N-number inquiry says, "This aircraft's registration status may not be suitable for operation. Please contact the Aircraft Registration Branch", but on the next page it says "Cert Terminated" and "Registration Pending" with my name, so I guess it's in process. I have until 5/18 to fly it on the copy, so I'm not too concerned yet.
 
I worked for a company that took mail-in forms and I did some of the back-end programming for it. I bet the FAA does something similar and here's what they (probably) actually do.

They have a room somewhere with pallet loads of mail along with a number of processing machines and operators. The operators will load a stack of mail into the machine which will then open and scan the entire contents of each envelope. Software identifies any checks and sends them off(probably electronically) to cash. The software also would identify the form and attempt to read everything written in all the fields and pre-fill all the data for someone to handle later, the machine will be able to read most things correctly but if it isn't sure it flags it for the operator to manually correct. An image of the actual scanned form is saved along with the pre-filled information. The pre-filled data and the images of the form/payment/etc are left in a database to be handled later. At some point(perhaps months later) people who specialize in handling the thing the form is for will open it up on their workstation, verify everything is correct(software probably handles a lot of this) and a few clicks later a printing system sends you a letter and updates your registration data.

But your form/payment are in the system probably within a couple days of them receiving the physical letter. This is why if you call them they are able to look up your information in a few moments even though it hasn't been actually processed/finalized.

Note: all that may be BS but I think it's probably exactly how it works based on having seen similar setups and having dealt with the FAA.
 
cowman said:
I worked for a company that took mail-in forms and I did some of the back-end programming for it. I bet the FAA does something similar and here's what they (probably) actually do.

They have a room somewhere with pallet loads of mail along with a number of processing machines and operators. The operators will load a stack of mail into the machine which will then open and scan the entire contents of each envelope. Software identifies any checks and sends them off(probably electronically) to cash. The software also would identify the form and attempt to read everything written in all the fields and pre-fill all the data for someone to handle later, the machine will be able to read most things correctly but if it isn't sure it flags it for the operator to manually correct. An image of the actual scanned form is saved along with the pre-filled information. The pre-filled data and the images of the form/payment/etc are left in a database to be handled later. At some point(perhaps months later) people who specialize in handling the thing the form is for will open it up on their workstation, verify everything is correct(software probably handles a lot of this) and a few clicks later a printing system sends you a letter and updates your registration data.

But your form/payment are in the system probably within a couple days of them receiving the physical letter. This is why if you call them they are able to look up your information in a few moments even though it hasn't been actually processed/finalized.

Note: all that may be BS but I think it's probably exactly how it works based on having seen similar setups and having dealt with the FAA.
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I have no clue how many Bill of sales and requests for re-registration or returned registrations the FAA receives but I don't think a Pallet load per day is real.. Let's think how many aircraft are sold each day? more than 1 person can do the paper work for? I probably rationalize it better if we weren't in the computer age.
It really wouldn't surprise me if we learned these registrations collect in some ones in basket until there are enough to fill some ones day. or they get done when they have nothing else to do. like a filler job to do when the real job is a bit lax.
 
Dana said:
I sent the registration application for my new Starduster in on 2/18, right now an N-number inquiry says, "This aircraft's registration status may not be suitable for operation. Please contact the Aircraft Registration Branch", but on the next page it says "Cert Terminated" and "Registration Pending" with my name, so I guess it's in process. I have until 5/18 to fly it on the copy, so I'm not too concerned yet.
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I saw that when I registered my airplane.
That's a catch-all BS message meaning "SNAFU". Expect a letter explaining that you forgot to initial somewhere on the form (or something to that note). Do NOT expect the letter to explain where, though, that's too much to ask from a government agency.
I am not kidding, btw.
Good luck with the registration of your aircraft which might not be suitable for operation. ;)
 
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