Dominican Republic jet crash.

Dang, looks survivable to the pilots. Maybe they were overcome with the smoke inside.
 
Plenty of room to spell out Dominican Republic rather than the cryptic Dom Rep
Indeed, but does it surprise you on a site where everyone insists on using the call letters instead of the location for even the most obscure airfields?
 
Indeed, but does it surprise you on a site where everyone insists on using the call letters instead of the location for even the most obscure airfields?
I can look up identifiers easily. I thought a person was named Dom Rep.

Up until that ditch and fireball I thought he had it. Did he intentionally go for grass when the gear didn't extend? Or did he just end up there? I see dust or smoke in the air but not initial touchdown
 
Plenty of room to spell out Dominican Republic rather than the cryptic Dom Rep.
I spent many flight hours patrolling Haiti and Dom Rep for migrant inderdiction. This went on over 3 years. I call it Dom Rep.
 
Sad
 

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I hear there was a hydraulic failure. Touching down where they did might've been the best they could do.

And looking at the impact and bounce before the breakup and fireball, I think the pilots sustained significant (probably lethal) injuries at that point.
 
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That path looks like they were trying a tight base to final return to the airport. I've seen a 2nd video floating around that is from slightly further away and starts sooner, looks like they touched down near the runway then left the side. I've also seen this shared in other places.


EXEC. JET CRASH, BOTH PILOTS KILLED.
Sunday. 07/JUNE/26. 16.11. Local time.
Gulfstream G200. R/n. N318JF. owned and operated by Aibonito Aviation crashed and was destroyed after a heavy landing at La Romana Intl. Airport, Dominican Republic.

The private aircraft with its two pilots onboard had departed from the airport at around 15:30. Local time on a repositioning flight back to Austin-Bergstrom Airport in Texas, USA.

After take off from Rwy.11 the aircraft turned heading to the southwest climbing quickly, however shortly afterward and while still climbing the crew declared an emergency as they had suffered an engine failure and were returning to the airport.

The aircraft flew past the airport parallel to Rwy.11 at an altitude of around 8,000ft and headed to the northeast of the airport where they circled for around 20 mins. to dump some fuel before setting the aircraft up for a downwind landing on Rwy.29.

The aircraft began a steep approach to land with an 11kt. tailwind and eventually landed very hard 300m from the runway threshold, the impact of the landing sheared off the main landing gear causing the aircraft to land on its belly before it veered off the left hand side of the runway onto the grass still travelling at over 100kts. A video shows the aircraft sliding along the uneven ground shedding its left engine before hitting a berm and a runway marker sign, this impact sheared away the entire left wing rupturing the wing tanks which immediately burst into a huge fireball. The aircraft came to rest a short distance further on with the hull broken into three sections.

Firecrews were quickly at the burning aircraft and knocked the fuel fed fire down with foam.

According to the latest reports both pilots were killed by impact trauma during the crash sequence, their identities have not been released. The crash site has now been sealed off pending the arrival of crash investigators.

More updates as they become available.
 
The pilots were on their way to pick up Yadier Molina and his family in Texas. The pilots appear to be US citizens. What a weird one this is.
 
Which is funny considering how this forum has to have pet names for every airplane. Tripe, Bo, Twinky, Baby Beech, 'coupe, etc :rolleyes:
I know airplanes. I'm too dumb to know global geography.
 
Wow, this is a terrible tragedy. Yes, control issues are certainly hinted at by the ADS-B data and their predicament seems to have deteriorated while circling under control at first, probably trying to trouble shoot the problem. And yes, this might explain why they tried landing on the grass, i.e. that was the best they could manage.
 
Wow, this is a terrible tragedy. Yes, control issues are certainly hinted at by the ADS-B data and their predicament seems to have deteriorated while circling under control at first, probably trying to trouble shoot the problem. And yes, this might explain why they tried landing on the grass, i.e. that was the best they could manage.

In the main video that was posted, at the very beginning you can see that they landed on prepared surface initially.
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Yeah. In fact, you can see one of the mains bouncing on the runway trailing the aircraft.
 
Yeah. In fact, you can see one of the mains bouncing on the runway trailing the aircraft.
Yes that is sort of what it looks like. It seems the plane hit the pavement hard on the mains and it ripped them off. That black round object in the air behind the tail, but before the dust cloud, looks like an aircraft wheel.
 
Interesting. Looks like the nose gear is down, but mains are up.
In case you missed it from the writeup in reply #14 (though I don't actually know the source of that writeup): "The aircraft began a steep approach to land with an 11kt. tailwind and eventually landed very hard 300m from the runway threshold, the impact of the landing sheared off the main landing gear causing the aircraft to land on its belly before it veered off the left hand side of the runway..."
 
What I don't understand is why did they land with a tailwind ... they spent time burning off fuel correct?
 
I noticed they landed on the reciprocal runway they took off from. This had to be the best option they had and they damn near made it.
 
What I don't understand is why did they land with a tailwind ... they spent time burning off fuel correct?
That plane may have had jettison valves, if I got the right operations manual.
Edit: seems as if they did indeed dump some fuel.
 
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Because it looks like the plane was nearly uncontrollable and the opportunity to land presented itself…?
The question is what was the initial failure and how did it contribute to the accident chain? Initial reports were of an engine failure or hydraulic failure, neither of which on their own should have single handedly brought done a very capable jet. Was there a cascading series of failures that overwhelmed the ability of the crew to land safely? Did the crew react inappropriately to the initial emergency and make a mildly bad situation worse? Look at several of the recent jet crashes to compare. The Challenger that crashed on the interstate in Naples when BOTH engines failed simultaneously yet randomly. Or the Biffle crash and its circumstances.
 
Agreed. All I’m saying is that second guessing a downwind landing after observing everything that went on, is not something I’m willing to do right now.

That Naples accident was crazy odds…
 
That Naples accident was crazy odds…

I don't think any of us could have predicted the final finding of that one. Everyone was thinking fuel starvation, pilot error, sleeves caught on fuel switches. Having two engines shut down at the same precise time due to a maintenance issue common to both engines, but completely mechanically separate, I can't even think of the odds.

That is why I compared to this, based on what little information we have there is talk of an engine failure, or hydraulic failure or both. Circling to dump fuel, then rushing to a close in turn to final and downwind, then missing or leaving the paved surface. The sequence of failures and the pilots reactions may be interesting, because no single failure SHOULD have caused this situation.
 
Dumb question of the day - if that model Gulfstream has an engine failure on either side, with nothing else broken, will all the hydraulics still work? I'd guess that the answer is "yes of course", but don't want to assume it.
 
Dumb question of the day - if that model Gulfstream has an engine failure on either side, with nothing else broken, will all the hydraulics still work? I'd guess that the answer is "yes of course", but don't want to assume it.

Yes, Video starts with the hyd system describtion.

 
Because it looks like the plane was nearly uncontrollable and the opportunity to land presented itself…?

I am not so sure it appears out of control. I fear we might find this a case of the crew being in way too much of a hurry to get it on the ground.
 
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