$189k for a 172N... https://www.trade-a-plane.com/searc...2N+SKYHAWK&listing_id=2392812&s-type=aircraft Okay, it has a pretty nice panel, I’ll give them that, but...it’s still a 172 and has an H2AD nonetheless. It’s a sellers market no doubt, but we’ve gotta peak at some point or another.
A lot of other planes I'd buy before a 172 if I had that much money to buy a plane. Ridiculous. But I guess not compared to a new one.
It’s a nice 172, if you like 172’s, (and there’s nothing wrong with that). You’d be hard pressed to put one together like that at that cost, and you’d save the year in the shops.
If you want a nicer plane without having to pay for a hangar and insurance while the thing spends months at a shop getting this stuff installed then this might be for you. Price does seem like a misprint.
Somebody put a 750 in a 172? And a GFC500? Is that a thing? To install these in 172s?? I'm just picturing my training 172s with these avionics in there.... would still be a 172 just with some really really fancy avionics... Wow. Hey, I guess if you really like flying slow airplanes with really expensive avionics, go for it.
A 172 with an auto pilot??????? that is like a VW Beetle (Bug) with an automatic transmission... It will sell for that and go right to work in training fleet if not disassembled and shipped to Africa or China for the same purpose.
Yeah, but was that 152 was completely rebuilt? https://aviataircraft.com/152-reimagined/ https://www.trade-a-plane.com/searc...&model=152&listing_id=2392096&s-type=aircraft https://www.yinglingaviation.com/yingling-aviation-announces-affordable-transformed-ascend-172/
After I got my private and was looking for an airplane to buy, I thought I wanted a 172. A wise person said, "Would you buy an adult bicycle with training wheels on it? No? Why would you buy the airplane you did your primary training in?" Something like that...
FTFY. 195's pricing doesn't seem to have been too affected. I'm shocked at what 175's are selling for when they were previously a completely neglected airframe.
In principle I don't think there's something wrong necessarily with buying the plane you learned on.. but $200K (almost) to go 110-ish knots with no real "yeah but it can do X" upside? Apparently.. although it hasn't sold yet but there's clearly a market for these kinds of 172 prices.. at sub $100K a 172 could be a great first airplane for someone. Easy to fly, two doors, respectable W&B, and just about anybody anywhere knows about it so you ought not have any unusual maintenance was I wonder how many people though with $200K cash would buy that vs something else Our flying club has a beautiful 160 horse 172N with GTN 650, two G5, and a GFC AP.. the thing gets booked weeks in advance and people fly the pants off it and it rents for really low, something like $120 an hour Still crazy to me though that price!!
I think we have hit the ceiling (pun).... Know if a gent that rebuilt a barn-find Tomahawk and sold it... in hours..
People tend to think that the airplane they learned on is just the greatest thing, until they actually fly something else. I saw it repeatedly as our students got their PPLs in the 172, then the taildgragger checkout in the Citabria was next on the schedule. After that, they found the 172 a stodgy, boring airplane. Besides that, some folks just don't want to learn anything more, and they feel safe in an airplane that almost flies itself. I don't understand that attitude.
Yep. I don't get it. In fact, I see it the opposite. As soon as you (quickly) get used to the speed of something new.... it's not enough. Probably should have gotten a Mooney.
I checked my cost tracking spreadsheet. I don't have that much cumulative into my Aztec - that's original purchase price 9 years ago + all of the replacement & upgrade parts, labor and annual inspections added together. But... ...that status won't last. My HSI packed it in during an RNAV approach so I am out of excuses to defer the GI 275s + center stack upgrade.
Well, it's dual G5's and a GTN750 but KAP140 instead of GFC500. And it does have CiES senders and Aerospace Logic fuel gauge: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/new-panel-underway-gtn-750-g5s-gtx-345.112619/
I was one of ten partners in a 172 for a number of years. The longest-time partner wanted an autopilot and talked most of the rest into it. Two of us were against it. Me (commercial/instrument rated and flew IFR in actual), who put more hours on the than the other nine combined, and one who was VFR only. We got an STEC 20. Over the next five years, none of the ones who voted for it ever flew more than 1.5 hours in a day, never more than twice a month and never even so much as a practice approach. (I stayed in for so long because their monthly dues and shares of maintenance costs - everyone paid equally whether they flew or not, plus $60/hour wet - subsidized my flying. Finally sold my share when they were doing sloppy “owner-assisted annuals” and cutting corners when money got tight.) So there are some out there who are thrilled to dump big bucks into cool-guy gadgets they’ll never use just to say they have it.
I'd feel pretty good about it if I could get the crazy prices people are asking/paying for 172s. Maybe it is flight schools buying more trainers?
I present you: https://www.plusoneflyers.org/fleet/montgomery-fleet/item/748-n172rw This plane is *always* booked...
Yes. My former flight school sold a pristine late model Skyhawk into a bigger school’s fleet for well over $100K. The other school is seeing it fly more than many — students like it — and less maintenance headaches. Many schools can make the numbers work on a $100K Skyhawk these days if they are large enough and it flies enough.
When my partner and I first bought the 201, I remained in the flying club for a while. Once, we shuttled the Mooney to maintenance, he flew the 201 and I followed down in the club 172 to pick him up. OMG what was once perfectly fine was now UTTERLY SLOW. The next time in the Mooney as I cruise climbed (500fpm) at 120kts, I remember thinking "Damn, this thing cruise climbs a good bit faster than the 172 CRUISES." Shortly after that, I ditched the club. And also why I've not rented anything faster than the 201 either.
Of course then you have this: https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/203339641/1965-piper-aztec-c-piston-twin-aircraft A fraction of the price. Ask yourself which you'd rather fly cross country.
