dammit! (Texas helo crash)

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by Let'sgoflying!, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. Let'sgoflying!

    Let'sgoflying! Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    15,934
    Location:
    west Texas
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Dave Taylor
  2. Stingray Don

    Stingray Don Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,059
    Location:
    Indianapolis, Indiana
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Stingray Don
  3. eman1200

    eman1200 Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2013
    Messages:
    10,184
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    eman1200
    wow, very sad. pilot was a Vietnam veteran.
     
  4. Ted DuPuis

    Ted DuPuis Administrator Management Council Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    23,386
    Location:
    Paola, KS
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    iBanYou
    Unfortunately a friend of mine knew this couple. Just so sad.
     
  5. mscard88

    mscard88 Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Messages:
    23,226
    Location:
    Alabama
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Mark
    Just read an article on that. Very sad.
     
  6. Ryanb

    Ryanb Final Approach PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,859
    Location:
    Tennessee
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Ryan
    Ugh, horrible!

    Wonder what on earth happened?
     
  7. Sac Arrow

    Sac Arrow Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    May 11, 2010
    Messages:
    15,228
    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Eight Balla
    Well that sucks.
     
  8. retpd2001

    retpd2001 Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2013
    Messages:
    534
    Location:
    Arizona
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    retpd2001
    Very sad.....looked awful dark out there........
     
  9. Zeldman

    Zeldman Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    9,652
    Location:
    NM or the emergency room...
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Billy
    Terrible tragedy, very sad indeed.

    Dark hole syndrome.??
     
    Scott@KTYR likes this.
  10. Warlock

    Warlock Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2013
    Messages:
    831
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Warlock
    Was at a hunting camp not to far north of there when it happened....seems like about that time we had a boundary passage with rain and a little wind...really a sad deal...
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2018
  11. SkyDog58

    SkyDog58 Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2015
    Messages:
    11,469
    Location:
    My own special place.
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Old dog w/o new tricks
    RIP
     
  12. rtk11

    rtk11 Cleared for Takeoff

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2015
    Messages:
    1,139
    Location:
    Southern California
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    rtk
    Well... crud. Horrible tragedy. RIP to the newlyweds and the pilot. Condolences to the family and friends.
     
  13. frfly172

    frfly172 Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,642
    Location:
    mass fla
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    ron keating
    Another sad day.RIP
     
  14. FlySince9

    FlySince9 En-Route

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Messages:
    2,576
    Location:
    Huntersville, NC
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Jerry
  15. Warlock

    Warlock Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2013
    Messages:
    831
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Warlock
    Pilot was 76 years old an ATP and had 24K hours and had flown that family for 20 Years... reportedly
     
  16. benyflyguy

    benyflyguy Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    804
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    benyflyguy
    God bless. Terrible tragedy
     
  17. Zeldman

    Zeldman Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    9,652
    Location:
    NM or the emergency room...
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Billy
    Bride and brother killed in crash on the way to the wedding. Neither looks comfortable during the flight portion.

     
  18. benyflyguy

    benyflyguy Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    804
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    benyflyguy
    Holy crap!! That was some thick soup! Wonder where this is from? One thing I noticed that I never thought about for some Helios is the instrument cluster seems far away from your sight line.
     
  19. Velocity173

    Velocity173 Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2012
    Messages:
    9,715
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Velocity173
    Brazil
     
  20. Rushie

    Rushie Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2006
    Messages:
    1,761
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Rushie
    Thanks, I had seen that before and when this one happened that clinched it for me: I will never fly to or from my wedding in a helicopter. Should I ever get married again.
     
  21. CC268

    CC268 Final Approach

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2015
    Messages:
    5,083
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    CC268
    Helicopters scare me. I rode in one in Hawaii and it was super cool but I was scared the whole time. Just waiting for my demise the whole time lol

    So sad...what a ****ty situation
     
  22. evapilotaz

    evapilotaz Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    2,487
    Location:
    Gilbert AZ. VFR All Year Baby
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Drone airspace abuser
    Seems like to many things can go wrong with a heli that you cannot recover from. I’m scared of those suckers too,
     
    CC268 likes this.
  23. Bill Jennings

    Bill Jennings Final Approach

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2005
    Messages:
    9,851
    Location:
    Southeast Tennessee
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    This page intentionally left blank
    The only time I can imagine being in a helo is my life depending on the ride, and in that case, those pilots are very proficient and professional and the birds well maintained. Voluntary ride? Nope.
     
    CC268 and Zeldman like this.
  24. Zeldman

    Zeldman Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    9,652
    Location:
    NM or the emergency room...
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Billy
    When I had the heart attack the doctor wanted to use a helicopter to fly me 135 miles to a better hospital. I refused. I gave him the options of fixed wing, Greyhound or I drive myself. All the helicopter medevac crashes in the area I flew were due to VFR into IMC into rising terrain and the pilots were not instrument rated.

    Watch the attitude indicator in the video. It goes from straight and level to almost inverted in a very short time. Almost makes me wonder if the attitude indicator might have failed.
     
    Let'sgoflying! likes this.
  25. Zeldman

    Zeldman Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2014
    Messages:
    9,652
    Location:
    NM or the emergency room...
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Billy
    So you are telling us that is over for us..?? :lol::lol:
     
    Rushie likes this.
  26. tawood

    tawood Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2015
    Messages:
    1,919
    Location:
    SE Michigan
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Tim
    Boy, you aren't kidding. If you look, when the camera first turns to the panel at 1:41, the AI shows them almost horizontal, then straightens out for about 8 seconds before going off again....I made a couple of screen shots (with red line added on AI):

    upload_2018-11-7_11-33-8.png

    upload_2018-11-7_11-33-36.png

    upload_2018-11-7_11-33-55.png upload_2018-11-7_11-34-16.png
     
    Zeldman likes this.
  27. Gerhardt

    Gerhardt En-Route

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    4,105
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Gerhardt
    For me, helicopters are exponentially more fun than fixed-wing. And I like airplanes.

    One thing that makes me weak in the knees though is watching fatal aircraft accident videos.
     
  28. Bell206

    Bell206 Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2017
    Messages:
    736
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Bell206
    Or having a connection to those in the event. The TX crash was a very sad event. But all things equal, I'd rather be in a helicopter over a plank wing any day or night.
     
  29. Velocity173

    Velocity173 Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2012
    Messages:
    9,715
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Velocity173
    I’m reading perceptions here vs facts when it comes to helicopter safety. Fact is, GA helicopter safety is in line with fixed wing. If you find any category that does better than the other, it would be marginal at best. Depending on which years you look at the accident rates, helicopters can even edge out fixed wing.

    http://www.ihst.org/portals/54/newsletters/Facts4_Accident Rates.pdf
     
  30. CC268

    CC268 Final Approach

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2015
    Messages:
    5,083
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    CC268
    68C3B7EF-8EEC-4406-ABE5-F43D0CCEBDC0.gif
     
    Velocity173 likes this.
  31. Rushie

    Rushie Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2006
    Messages:
    1,761
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Rushie
    I'm not going by perception or facts. I'm going by superstition. :D
     
    Velocity173 likes this.
  32. Gerhardt

    Gerhardt En-Route

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    4,105
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Gerhardt
    I caught a video last night of them taking off. Seemed normal enough. An article this morning said he'd made a mayday call right before the accident, but there were zero details about the call.
     
  33. Fearless Tower

    Fearless Tower Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Messages:
    14,825
    Location:
    Norfolk, VA
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Fearless Tower
    If helicopters are so safe, then why don't we see a bunch of vintage helo fly-ins????
    :biggrin::heli::biggrin:
     
  34. Bell206

    Bell206 Line Up and Wait

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2017
    Messages:
    736
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Bell206
    Because there is no such thing as a "vintage" helicopter--for the most part, if they're still flying they're still working for a living... :)