Curious: The Most Ratings, Licenses, Endorsements A Pilot Can Have

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  1. Sinistar

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    As I see different pilot licenses I see some things I just never would have thought of at first (eg Flight Engineer 707). So I've been wondering what the most fully dressed out Pilot License would have on it?

    A few rules:
    - Limit the Category = Airplane
    - Limit the Class = Single Engine, Multi-Engine, Land, Water(sea)
    - Do not include A&P, IA unless it also appears on the Pilot License
    - Definitely include anything CFI related.
    - If there is a standard type rating - just one example is fine (eg 777).
    - If there is something unique for a warbird or experimental (LOA?) an example would be great.
    - Is there something specif for MU-2?
    - If you know of all the restrictions it would be interesting to see those as well
    - Although endorsements don't appear please list all that are known.
     
  2. Sam D

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    Martha King's got a lot:

     
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    A pilot certificate doesn't have anything CFI or Mechanic (AP, IA). Those are separate certificates (instructor, mechanic). LOAs are not ratings and do not appear on certificates.
    MU-2 doesn't require any special rating (other than multiengine) but does require the pilot comply with the training/endorsement SFAR.

    Limitations include something like laughably, English Proficient. There's also things for Commercial certificates that may limit pilots to private privileges in certain classes, likewise an instrument rating may be so qualified. Then there's the old "centerline thrust" limitation.
     
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    I am aiming for a single license: master of all powered conveyances sea/air/land
     
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    Ah! The last license below "Chuck Norris".
     
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    That's an ICAO requirement. I actually hold a English Proficiency Card-Level 6 issued by another country.
     
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    Yep, his is sea/air/land/space.
     
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    Only things I have not flown is a baloon, a glider or a gyrocopter. Also have a UAS certificate but have never flown that. Have flown a sea plane but no rating in one.
     
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    Here’s a restriction for you. This is what was put on my MD-11 type rating as an FO.

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    I guess they really wanted you to stay put once they paid for the type rating. (Like anyone ever leaves FDX prior to retirement?)
     
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    It means he hasn't landed the MD-11 and can only fly it enroute (as the relief).
     
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    I don’t think that’s true. I’m pretty sure every 121 operation gives you a PIC type. There are no US 121 airlines that I’m aware of that have a second officer.
     
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    Is a parachute rigger certificate a separate card?
     
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    Before all US carriers started typing both seats, only the PIC held a type. Then, IAW ICAO the US followed with the SIC types. It wasn't long after that when the US carriers began typing both seats.

    The Fedex MD-11 type that Sluggo mentions goes a ways back. At that point they were not PIC typing everyone in the crew, and that language added to the certificate was a way to essentially have a relief pilot.
     
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    No. That’s not true. I was a full-up qualifier FO. @EdFred and @Doc Holliday hit the nail on the head. My type rating was only good at FedEx. They’ve since stopped doing that and now they stopped putting that restriction on FOs when they get their types.
     
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    Screenshot_20200630-172313.png Screenshot_20200630-172327.png

    This is a friend of mine. I always love the all makes and models endorsement.
     
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    This is one of my former student’s dad. He’s also a Airplane CFI/I/MEI and rotor CFI/I

    [​IMG]
     
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    Another restriction that isn’t too common is the centerline thrust multi engine certificate. It’s possible to get hour multi in something like a 337 which would get you a centerline thrust restriction on the certificate

    as for the types at airlines, per the FOQ laws that came out several years ago anyone operating for a 121 air carrier is required to have a PIC type in the aircraft so no more SIC only types for FO’s in the USA
     
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    Yes, a separate physical card.
     
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    I got all I need with PP-SEL VFR. I'm now a left-seater on Pakistani commercial flights and - pardon the expression - living the dream.
     
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    Adding a B-25 SIC type later this year/early next year.
     
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    “FOQ laws”?
     
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    I believe a multi obtained in any twin that doesn't have a published Vmc carries that restriction (including some military AC).
     
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    first officer qualifications. Most will know it as the ATP rule, from back in 2013 when the law changed the requirements to fly for an airline.
     
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    Delaware?
     
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    Here’s a former coworker of mine.

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    He’s the world record holder for most pilot type ratings.
    In our break room there was a display of him next to every airplane he was typed in and the Guinness certificate. It was pretty neat. I haven’t seen it in a while, so I’m guessing he took it when he retired.
     
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    how did he get the airship rating?
     
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    :eek:. How many cards did he have to fit all of those?
     
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    In Alaska, our sea plane tour guide in Ketchikan told me that his card just said “Valid all Classes/Categories” and there were only about 20 or 30 of those in the US. When you get them all, they stop naming each individually. I might have that verbiage wrong.
     
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    Was he a test pilot or something?
     
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    I have no idea. I'd imagine he called one of the companies that has airships and asked if he could pay for the rating class.

    I don't know but his wallet much have been huge!

    Not that I remember. He was at Flying Tigers before FedEx. He just enjoyed flying and collecting type ratings. Everybody has got to have a hobby, I suppose. It seems his was just very expensive and took a whole lot of studying.
     
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    That’s what I said when they were carting me off to jail...”I’m a sovereign citizen! FOQ Laws!” :D
     
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    The real Doc Holliday appears in my family tree. He wasn't a pilot.
     
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    LOL. ok. Silly me, and I thought US airlines operated under 14 CFR and 49 USC. :rolleyes:
     
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    This Doc Holliday is just on R&R.
     
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    What's with the R-22 and R-44? I assume those are the Robinson helicopters, which don't require a type rating, so how did he get one in them?
     
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    Several years ago the FAA would add various helicopter M&M to the certificate as "types". Not uncommon to see old certificates with BH47, H269, etc on them. Many pilots chose to keep them on the certificate.
     
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    Holy crap... 103 types?!? How did het get someone to pay for all those? He couldn't have worked on them for more than an average of a few months! :eek:
     
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