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Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by motoadve, May 11, 2021.
TIme for a "550"
He can afford it if you give him a tip.
Good time to do a taildragger conversion...
Sorry to hear about this. Glad you are all OK. Beyond that, it’s just money.
Hope there was some native women to appropriately greet him.
I've been to Costa Rica and I'd rather see the police helicopter. (Which, of course, will take you to the mainland where the locals will be enthralled to hear the story of your daring crash landing on a desert island.)
Sorry that happened, but glad all of you are OK.
I'm assuming this happened sometime in the past, and not recently? Are you still flying the US Pacific Northwest backcountry?
If you are able could you give a little more amplification on the decision making around the oil analysis results please?
I currently don't use oil analysis. The main reason why is I don't think most owners, including me, would preemptively tear down an engine based on lab results. I would be looking for confirmation of a problem from one or more of the more conventional means we apply - compression, borescope, metal in the filter, spark plug condition, and so forth.
I think his video camera clock was wrong, paper in the video seems to show March 6 2021?
Ginger or Mary Ann?
To my untrained eye it looked to me like the landing site was to soft, wheel(s) dug in. Glad you are ok, sorry about the damage($$). On an island? Retrieving the plane would be the 1st hurdle.
It’s recent. You can follow along with some of the visual differences on the plane (decals, AOA heads up display, etc.).
That’s gotta be humbling, and then to post about it.
I probably would have flipped the plane, or worse. At least you practice this off-field stuff often.
Glad all are ok. Wow that sand is soft.... just looking at all of the footprints.
Definitely this. I think that his combination of committing to a landing site and having confidence and skills in beach landings made the difference between walking away from a repairable plane and the alternative. I'm hoping we learn more about the cause and the repair process. Just flying in Central America seems exotic to me, I can't imagine getting mechanic work done in another country.
Curious - is this something that's covered by insurance?
I think he mentioned in the video that the price of insurance in Costa Rica was too high so he only had third-party (liability) coverage, and thus there isn't coverage for this particular incident. But I do think that damage you sustain while making a successful forced landing due to partial or complete loss of power is generally covered by the first-party in-motion coverage that we all know and love.
Thanks! I had to listen on mute since I'm also in a meeting
on a three hour flight
At first I was like, why risk all these humble people and resources for such a remote retrieval of a spam can, when the insurance can just cut you a check for the new reef addition to Costa Rican waters. Then I caught the blurb about liability only and (1k/mo for full insurance) and it made sense why the incentive.
We have similar price point issues back home in PR when it comes to airplane insurance. It's pretty prohibitive, certainly part of the reason I had to leave as a mere public sector peon.
Glad you're all safe. The scariest part of the video was when you mentioned that you're a self insured. Ugh.
Do enough off airport landings and it WILL bite at some point. I was lucky enough to not have bent anything doing off airport work.
The most important thing is no injuries. Really glad to see that.
Every video I saw reminded me of EXACTLY that.
On the other hand, off airport experience has got to help when the engine poops out over BFE, like the OP video.
Will be curious to see what caused the partial
loss @motoadve ?? Any clues yet??
Video says sludge plugging oil passage. It also had a date of March 3 for those asking how long ago.
3/5 according to the site above.
Glad to see you are safe. Thank you for posting. Tough decision to make, but most certainly the right one - trust your ability to land even in less-than-ideal conditions on a flat, yet wet sand beach rather than risk flight over dense jungle and/or open water with the engine operating like that.
Hope you are up flying again soon. I always enjoy your videos and commentary.
I wouldn't want to be in that kind of trouble. I'm glad you're doing well.
I think it says there was glove material in the #6 cylinder oil passage, even? I'd be pretty unhappy with my overhaul shop if that happened to me!
Of course, Larry had a little over 300 hours since overhaul and I'm only at 200. I could still have a glove lurking...
How would you know it was glove material? You may very well be right, I couldn't understand what he said, but the context was oil analysis detecting dirt and he said "something" was in the oil passage of the valve pushrod.
Don’t land on wet sand or they will make you ride in a helicopter.
Captions say that the oil analysis before and after the engine failure indicated the oil was "contaminated". 20 years of oil analysis and I've never had an oil sample come back with that before. He also says that either cloth or fabric was in the oil galleries. My guess would be a shop rag.