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Off the top of my head and without looking it up, you can be cleared...
  • ...to a destination, IFR
  • ...to (for) takeoff
  • ...to (into) class Bravo, VFR
  • ...to (into) restricted airspace
  • ...to (for) an approach
  • ...to land
I'm only counting those things where ATC actually uses the word "cleared". What am I not remembering?

Bonus points for not looking it up. :)
 
asicer said:
Actually, I don't think I've ever heard that one. It's always been "exiting class Bravo, proceed on course, altitude your discretion".
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Ok, I get it every time when talking to clearance when flying VFR. "Cleared out of the class B airspace via fly heading 123, maintain VFR at or below 3500" or something similar.
 
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asicer said:
Actually, I don't think I've ever heard that one. It's always been "exiting class Bravo, proceed on course, altitude your discretion".
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I usually hear "Bug destroyer 666, you're clear of the Bravo..."
 
asicer said:
Off the top of my head and without looking it up, you can be cleared...
  • ...to a destination, IFR
  • ...to (for) takeoff
  • ...to (into) class Bravo, VFR
  • ...to (into) restricted airspace
  • ...to (for) an approach
  • ...to land
I'm only counting those things where ATC actually uses the word "cleared". What am I not remembering?

Bonus points for not looking it up. :)
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...direct. That one causes confusion sometimes. Sometimes pilots interpret it as a Clearance Limit. That is "cleared TO"
 
Cleared to cross a runway (edit: I've heard "cleared to cross X" and also just heard "cross X")
Cleared direct to a waypoint along route of flight
Cleared through restricted area

That's all I got off the top of my head
 
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asicer said:
As I understand it, "clear" is very different from "cleared" in ATC-speak.
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My point exactly. I've never heard "Cleared out of the bravo."

Otherwise we'd have to add the ATIS "Sky Condition Clear" to the list, right? I guess by that I'm assuming ATIS is part of ATC communication.
 
mtuomi said:
...VFR-on-top?
...Option?
...out of the Bravo
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asicer said:
Good catch.

Actually, I don't think I've ever heard that one. It's always been "exiting class Bravo, proceed on course, altitude your discretion".
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Ravioli said:
My point exactly. I've never heard "Cleared out of the bravo."

Otherwise we'd have to add the ATIS "Sky Condition Clear" to the list, right? I guess by that I'm assuming ATIS is part of ATC communication.
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Many years ago while flying checks in the C310, I had a nightly route departing Newark. Every night my clearance (on the ground prior to taxi) included “cleared out of the Bvavo”. (May have been TCA back then). I once asked clearance delivery about that. They responded that I was already in the Bravo, so the logical clearance would be an exit clearance.
 
It’s the landing clearance that I truly do not understand. It means very little other than a heads up there may be conflicting traffic. It should be more defined. For example, you could do a one foot low approach down the runway, but that wouldn’t avoid the conflict. It should be defined something like “cannot cross the threshold without landing clearance without executing a missed approach”.
 
Nothing to add except this recent exchange with Phoenix approach:

Me - Phoenix approach, Cherokee 5660U two miles Southeast of Falcon Field, three thousand five hundred.
PHX - Cherokee 5660U say destination.
Me - Tucson and requesting flight following.
PHX - Cherokee 5660U squawk XXXX and say requested altitude.
Me - 7,500' to get out of these bumps
PHX - <laughs> Cherokee 5660U cleared into Bravo airspace, climb at pilot's discretion
Me - God bless you ma'am.
PHX - you're very welcome.
 
My favorite:
“CLEARED TO CONDUCT EVASIVE ACTION MANEUVER FROM (fix) TO (fix),”
 
BigBadLou said:
You cannot use myths, I call BS.
Moooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmm! :D
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Cleared as filed is one of the scariest things a controller can say.
Me: Ready to copy long clearance
Controller: “cleared to K... as filed”
Me to self: “$#%# what did I file?”
Me: “cleared to K... as fiiiiiled (scared voice)
 
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