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  1. FastEddieB

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    If you haven’t been living in a cave, you’ve probably heard of OpenAI’s ChatGPT. It’s now open to anyone who wants to play with it.

    https://chat.openai.com/chat

    You have to register, but it’s free.

    My first query was inspired by a grandchild who was questioning why Christmas was on December 25. It returned a quite natural sounding result of the basic history behind it.

    More recently, on another forum it was mentioned that Tesla was adding 23 acres to what I believe was an existing site. Someone said that’s not all that large, only a square about 1,000’ on a side. That didn’t sound right to me, but here’s my query and response:

    23 acres is a square how many feet on a side?

    23 acres is equal to approximately 968,752 square feet. To find the length of one side of a square that has 23 acres, you would take the square root of 968,752, which is approximately 984. Therefore, each side of a 23-acre square would be approximately 984 feet.

    It sure seems the possibilities are endless. Has anyone else played around with this?
     
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    Yes. It’s a powerful tool. And that’s likely an understatement.
     
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    I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
     
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    I saw a news story the other day where a lady missed jury duty. The judge sentenced her to write a 30 page essay on why jury duty is important. Made me think of ChatGPT. He's obviously never heard of it. Real harsh penalty - LOL
     
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    Yep, it's incredibly powerful and accurate.

    ChatGP A: Pilots should use the phrase "with you" when checking in on a new frequency as a way to confirm that the transmission has been received and to establish communication with the new controller.

    In aviation, pilots use specific phrases and terminology to communicate with air traffic controllers and other pilots in a clear and concise manner. When a pilot is changing frequencies, they will typically check in with the new controller by saying their callsign, the frequency they are switching to, and the phrase "with you." This lets the new controller know that the pilot is switching frequencies and is requesting to establish communication on the new frequency.

    For example, a pilot might say something like "Boston Tower, this is Delta One-Two-Three, switching to your frequency, with you." This lets the Boston Tower controller know that the pilot is switching to their frequency and is requesting to establish communication.

    Using the phrase "with you" when checking in on a new frequency is a standard practice in aviation and helps to ensure clear and efficient communication between pilots and controllers.​

    Another...

    ChatGP A: Yes, it is common for pilots to ask "any other traffic, please advise" as a way of requesting information about the presence and location of other aircraft in the area. This phrase is often used when flying in the traffic pattern, as there may be many aircraft in the area performing various maneuvers.

    Asking "any other traffic, please advise" is a way for pilots to communicate with other pilots and maintain situational awareness. It allows pilots to be aware of the location and movements of other aircraft and take any necessary precautions to avoid conflicts.

    It is important for pilots to maintain good communication with other aircraft in their vicinity, and using phrases like "any other traffic, please advise" is one way to do this. Other common phrases that pilots use to communicate with each other include "traffic in sight," "requesting traffic information," and "requesting radar information."​
     
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    Sure, sometime’s it’s just plain wrong, but remember it’s just a child and learning all the time.
     
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    That remains to be seen. I wrote feedback on the "traffic please advise" one several weeks ago, pointing out the FAA itself cautions against it. I haven't been back to check if it's learned anything since then.
     
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    I fed ChatRPT into the old Eliza/Doctor app to see what would happen. It got kind of boring though.
     
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    How did that make you feel?

     
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    Damn! it's pretty smart!

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    FYI, there’s 640 acres in a square mile. Also known as a section of land.
     
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    Number don’t lie. But having two properties of 3.1 and 4.4 acres, 23 acres struck me as a pretty large parcel. Guess it’s not in the scheme of things.
     
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    Ok, I’ll bite. What is incorrect about asking, “any traffic in the pattern to please advise?”
     
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    The AIM recommends against using it. I think it is just low hanging fruit for pilots that like to point out to other pilots that they are doing something wrong.
    It has never caused me to crash my plane responding to this phrase with my position report. But yeah, its explicitly noted in the book.

    Also NORDO is allowed so assuming you use this phrase and don't get a response doesn't mean the pattern is empty.

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    Other than being unnecessary as opposed to listening and the AIM specifically telling us not to?
     
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    I don't tell them they're wrong. I just respond with, "It's bumper to bumper on US 1." I use some discretion on that.
     
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    HAHA!!
     
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    I figured you'd appreciate it.
     
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    Huh. I tried to set up an account, but it seems to be refusing to send a confirmation email.
     
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    You'd be perfect, It could write your Rants for you.
     
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    Okay I got it, but now it wants my phone number. Nope.
     
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    Make something up?
     
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    It wants to send a confirmation text, right?
     
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    Oh. If they did, I just gave it to them. I'm kind of in the camp that privacy is dead, anyway. But that's for another thread.
     
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    It's so smart it's already learned how to write satire.
     
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    I've spent some time with it. I find the same prompt yields the same answer, which is a little disappointing.. a true human-like chat bot would give a slightly different answer each time. Perhaps this is because it stopped learning in 2021?

    I also found it's not that "smart" - I asked it how many Saturday's there were in 2020, it told me. I asked it if it understands how a calendar works, and it told me. I asked if it understands basic math, it told me and confirmed that it does. I then asked it for the number of Saturday's in 2023 and I got a canned response that it's a chat bot that stopped learning in 2021 so can't answer things about current events. Logically, it should be able to mathematically determine the query

    Either way, none of these "AI" things are that impressive. Outside of telling you the weather or playing a song Alexa is basically useless. Siri, Cortana, Google Assistant, are all relatively under whelming tbh
     
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    Just to be clear, the post said
    "ChatGP A: Yes, it is common for pilots to ask "any other traffic, please advise"
    It did NOT say "in the pattern".
    And the common complaint is when people ask the question with "in the AREA".

    But I'm with you. As long as you specify WHICH airport pattern, or area, what's the big deal?
     
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    Hmmm, I hate doing performance reviews. I see a potential application here.
     
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    I’m going to let it take over my forum posting activities, freeing up my valuable time for other stuff.

    See ya!

    Mods, should my account post anything banworthy, it wasn’t my fault. Please give the time-out to ChatGPT
     
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    From a computer science standpoint, the most impressive is that it’s doing it with natural language. Natural Language Processing (NLP) has been a goal for a very long time. searching a store of data to generate answers…boils down to an advanced version of SQL.

    now I can’t wait for the spam bots to start calling. Sigh.
     
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    Here’s a video where a college astrophysics professor feeds it an astrophysics exam.

    ChatGPT scored at the average level of a student in his class. Looking at the questions, frankly, it’s pretty damn impressive, considering these are just free form word problems with complex concepts.

     
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    From the examples in this thread, ChatGPT simply sounds like a more fluent Siri, Cortana, Alexa, or (why doesn't Google Assistant have a cute name?)

    Label me unimpressed.
     
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    Probably got confused because you were using the possessive form rather than the plural form of Saturday.
     
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    Right. Everyone should know the plural form is Saturdae. (Or is it Saturdi?)
     
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    It’s an order of magnitude better, and able to write an entire essay with supporting thoughts.

    Not perfect by a long shot, but still a major step in AI development, IMO.
     
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    My concern with this kind of AI is how it gets fact-checked, and the process and speed with which corrections are implemented. I see this as essentially and advanced version of Wikipedia, which we all know can be useful, but has clear limitations on reliability. The problem is that it "sounds" more authoritative than Wikipedia, but likely is not.

    As far as the impacts on academia, I'm not that worried. A teacher should be able to devise examinations in the classroom that clear identify the fakers. Along the lines of "Thank you for turning in your 10 page essays. Now, please sit down and write two page summary of what you just submitted."
     
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