So I'm gonna start a little rant here about why I can't do the schooling and checkrides before I get a commercial license? The way I understand it, if you get your ppl and instrument at 100 hours, you would still need, at minimum, 150 hours to get a commercial license. Wouldn't those 150 hours be better spent getting your CFI/CFII/ME/MEI? Then get your commercial license to practice the privileges of the instructor ratings? Seems backwards to me.
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Depends on your goals.
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You have to have the commercial skills demonstrated B4 you can teach them, dp342b. Very few pilots would waste a $$ on a guy with only PVT ASEL skills who was trying to teach.
Well if you want commercial without instructor ratings, then ya you'll have to wait until the 250 hours for the commercial.
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I'm an airline pilot and I'm not a CFI
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Now, I'm thinking about getting my CFI just because I like to have goals in front of me. I'll never use it but I think it might help keep the saw Sharp.
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Understand that instructor ratings are not ratings on a Commercial certificate, but on a separate flight instructor certificate.
Also note that with a Private Pilot certificate you can train and apply at 150 hours for a Flight Instructor certificate with a Sport Pilot rating. That would at least get the hard part out of the way, and make the other instructor ratings add-ons.
You can do the training. You just can’t take the practical test until you meet the eligibility requirements. Much of commercial single engine training and airplane single engine flight instructor training can be done concurrently.
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You sure about that? I saw this video once……..
Some threads I’m at a loss of words for. This is one of those threads.
Nuff said.
Nuff said.
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What do you have to teach someone else at 100 hours? You are still learning yourself.
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So if you were an instructor without a commercial, how qualified would you feel instructing a commercial pilot candidate?
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I’m confused and am willing to be embarrassed about it. How can a CFI fly for compensation (teach while flying in an airplane) without a Commercial ticket? Or is this just getting a rating without the right to exercise it? WTF am I missing?
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250 hour wonder-CFIs are bad enough. What would we do with 100-hour super-wonder-CFIs?
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The Commercial rating requirement is about showing you have the ability to fly to those standards. CFI when teaching is getting compensated not for commercial flying, but teaching. A CFI can even teach and get paid while in Basic Med.
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Well you can.
More than one person has worked on both the commercial and initial CFI certificates and taken both checkrides at the same time.
If you are so desperate to teach, how about a CFI-sport? All you need is a sport pilot certificate. As a private pilot, you exceed that requirement.
But if you are ranting because you can’t teach commercial applicants without already qualifying for a commercial certificate yourself, sorry, you’re falling on my deaf ears. And your rant leaves me wondering: is your goal a desperate need to share your knowledge with the next generation of aviators or purely time-building? If the former, I’m sorry. If the latter, I’m sorry … not sorry.
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eman1200
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And we both get coffee for the captain
Humble up and realize you have some learning to do before you are ready to share your knowledge with others. The phrase “you don’t know what you don’t know” applies here, as we are all guilty of that at some point in our lives.
Lindberg
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At 100 hours, you won't know ****, so what are you going to teach? It's questionable even at 250. But if you're that eager to learn to educate before you have significant plot skills, spend some time at your local community college getting a teaching certificate. Then you can skip FOI when the time comes.
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Actually you can get the training and complete the checkride for a light sport CFI without the commercial or the instrument.
(c) Hold at least a sport pilot certificate with category and class ratings or privileges, as applicable, that are appropriate to the flight instructor privileges sought.
1) 150 hours of flight time as a pilot,
(i) 100 hours of flight time as pilot in command in powered aircraft,
(ii) 50 hours of flight time in a single-engine airplane,
(iii) 25 hours of cross-country time,
(iv) 10 hours of cross-country time in a single-engine airplane,
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You can. Sport instructors are an example. On the more general question, the FAA has traditionally separated teaching privileges from other commercial privileges. Even a fully certificated CFI/CFII doesn't need a second class medical - third class, BasicMed, and no medical qualification at all are all done (depending on the lesson).
A commercial is required because the base instructor rating covers the commercial material.
You don't have to maintain a commercial certificate (though it's bizarre how you'd not). THe reg only requires a PILOT certificate (no indication of Commercial vs. Private etc.), just that you have one with the right category/class ratings.
You don't have to maintain a commercial certificate (though it's bizarre how you'd not). THe reg only requires a PILOT certificate (no indication of Commercial vs. Private etc.), just that you have one with the right category/class ratings.