Cautionary Notice from OK City

Discussion in 'Medical Topics' started by midlifeflyer, May 16, 2018.

  1. midlifeflyer

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    There was a discussion either here or the Red Board about a "friendly" cautionary letter sent by the FAA to some BasicMed applicants, cautioning them about limitations and their obligations to self-ground in cases of medical deficiency.

    Here is similar one I received yesterday. I redacted it for a bit of privacy. Parts of it are actually humorous, especially in the context of my history. I should have left in the "Dear "Mr. Mark" reversal of my first and last names :D

    Considering I never received anything like this in the almost 30 years I've had medical certificates, is this something new OK City is doing?

    @bbchien or anyone else with a line into medical policy?

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    Wasn't operation of the aircraft prohibited in the advent of changes in your condition or side effects all along?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    In case it wasn't here, this is the BasicMed one:

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    This is why it should have been drivers license medical. You either have it or you don't.
     
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    This reads like a big load of covering their hind quarters

    Referring to the BasicMed letter... I wonder which of the 6 items they think that "you do not meet one or more of the above requirements"?

    It would be more helpful if they said "of these items, you're deficient in #___" than to be so cryptic.

    But knowing you, Mark, and how aware you are of the applicable regs, I don't see why they are trying to wrap you around an axle.
     
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    So, in the letter mentioning a history of “x” medical condition, do you know where they got this data?
     
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    Dear airman, you have violated one of the following FARs please check all that apply and submit this form to the local FSDO.
     
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    I imagine the aeromed guys had a meeting and somebody figured it would be a good idea to be proactive and remind Basicmed users about self evaluation. Not a big deal. Certainly not a threat.
     
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    Big Brother, just making sure you know he's watching...
     
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    I got the same letter from Mr O’Brian after my last 1st class. It’s stupid. I have continuously held a medical since 1995. I did appreciate the friendly reminder though, made me feel special.
     
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    Or someone running around the enclosure thumping their chest
     
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    In case any of you has never held an SI medical, the OP letter's verbage is standard text on an SI letter and generally similar to what's on the back side of a standard medical certificate, which a lot of guys overlook.
     
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    The fact that it’s already on the back of the medical is what irritates me. It’s a waste of time and money.
     
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    They are both form letters. Mine is just a bit more specific. I suspect in the BasicMed one, it's triggered simply by something in the reported medical history. It would be more helpful to be less cryptic, but I can kind of understand why since it doesn't involve a current FAA medical.

    I really don't think they are trying to do anything. For now I'm taking the FAA at its word - that's it's some quality control review thing. But that's why I asked here. One of the medical folks might know more. Besides, I doubt they know my professional background, that I represent Airmen, and post and write on regulatory subjects, or would care if I did.

    Yeah. It's also in the medical certificate regulations. Kind of Medical Certificate 101.

    Funny you should mention SI. That's one of more humorous things. None of the conditions mentioned in my letter was the subject of an SI. Basically, all no big deal items which went through OK City without any inquiry. For example, one was my mild seasonal hay fever, something I disclosed in my first medical application and every one after. OTOH, I had an SI for a number of years for something much more serious which does have a recurrence potential and it is not one of the "conditions" mentioned in the letter.
     
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    I spent a few years trying to convince the FAA I didn't have a condition that was brought to their attention because my provider wrote, "There was an indication of XXX, but subsequent tests shows no sign of it." After further testing to show that I didn't have any signs of XXX, they gave me a SI. After the second annual medical after the SI issuance, my NEW AME (who wasn't an corrupt moron like my first), wrote "THIS IS A ******** DIAGNOSIS" on his letter (his exact words).

    I got a letter saying "OK, you don't have XXX" but if you ever do get XXX (like this is likely) stop flying.
     
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    One doctor says one thing, another doctor says the opposite. What’s a good little bureaucrat supposed to do? Can you imagine the horrors you caused in Oklahoma City?
     
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    No, all the real DOCTORS said the same thing. It was some pencil necked bureaucrat in Joklahoma city who couldn't parse the sentence in the first letter that said the first test was a false positive who thought that I "didn't meet the requirements." Every piece of documentation from the one submitted with the initial deferral from the lying turd AME (he outright LIED to me, the RFS confirmed it, and Dr. Bruce subsequently told me that the AME did things that should have gotten his designation yanked) to the subsequent tests I sent direct to OKC, to the final one that the new AME wrote, ALL SAID THE SAME THING. I did not have, nor is it any more likely than anybody else to develop what they thought I had.