Jeanie
Pattern Altitude
I have a new student who bought a Cardinal and wants me to teach him to fly it. Anyone have any "be advised" information regarding how they handle etc.?
That's true especially in the '68 and '69 models (177, 177A). In addition to several other significant improvements, the 177B (1970-78) has a recontoured wing leading edge that's not as draggy at high angles of attack.Don't get it behind the power curve or it will hide the runway from you.
JAFA?
...always park with the nose into the wind.
Well it's a 1968 with 150 hp... I'll fly it tomorrow.....
And the outcome?
A 150-HP Cardinal from Alpine, she's still trying to accelerate to takeoff speed!
The Cardinal is much slicker than the Cessnas most GA pilots are used to. Watch the airspeed during descents. In general Cardinals fly a bit more like a high performance single than other similar Pipers and Cessnas.
Enjoy the comfortable cockpit and great visibility!
Pity the poor fools in their Archers and Skyhawks!
+1Really? none of them that I have ever flown felt slick, in any definition of the word...
+1
They aren't much different in that regard. Maybe the RG is, but FG isn't.
The RG isn't "Slick"...
This guy has flow his 150 horse 177 out of Denver area for years...
http://n370s.com/
Maybe he's just a better pilot than the naysayers?
He also has a powerflow which I think adds some oompf.
He also has a powerflow which I think adds some oompf.
Sure, anytime you lighten the load by jettisoning all that heavy money, the aircraft will fly better.
With the gear out, it accelerates like it's dragging a boat anchor. It's not bad when it's up. It takes noticeably more runway than a 172 loaded to max.
I think he meant it's hard to slow down. It is, with the gear up in a descent. So, you level off, drop below 125 KIAS, then extend the gear....
Slicker than a 172 I guess, but it is no Bonanza..
Approach flaps 10 degrees greatly helps takeoff, even though the manual says 0-10%. YOu can also use the first 10 degrees at 130kts (I believe), which is very helpful you get you down to the pattern without dropping the gear 5 miles out.
Have you flown one with and another without before on a Cessna 177?
No never have. I've also never been in a 177 with the 150hp but have heard that it was a dog. I usually fly with Gary who just put a PF in his PA28-140 with the 160hp engine and you can ask him but I think he is very please with the improved performance.
See post #28
Does your 68 have the 180 conversion? I'm wondering if there is a sweet spot where the PFs are great but outside that hp sweetspot they are like putting wheel pants on an Pawnee.