Boy scout leaders 'help' out at national park, destroy million YO rock formation

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Yeah what a couple of douche nozzles. I'm sure the BSA leadership is cringing right now.
 
I read on the news yesterday that the one who did the heavy work is currently suing for disability due to a car accident on 2009. I'd like to see that video played in court. Some people are stupid.
 
After the video went viral the idiot said he was doing it for safety reasons. That's the first video I have seen where the participants are laughing and joking throughout the video. No one takes responsibility for their actions anymore,wish him luck on the disability claim.
 
At first, I thought monetary damages and some comm service would suffice. Now, I'd like to see Taylor serve some time for this BS.
 
After the video went viral the idiot said he was doing it for safety reasons. That's the first video I have seen where the participants are laughing and joking throughout the video. No one takes responsibility for their actions anymore,wish him luck on the disability claim.

The sad thing is that he may actually have believed it, given the zero-risk, zero-tolerance mindset that is becoming so prevalent.

-Rich
 
What was more stupid:knocking of the rock or posting a video of it.

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That scout leader is as dumb as a box of rocks.

What?


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Not defending these guys, but the desert envirofolk are weird. Maybe it is the lack of rain/erosion and no glaciers cruising by yesterday(in geological time) just funny giving a bleep about old rocks. We farm rocks in new england they pop out of the ground in the spring like weeds. Knock a couple over whatever more will show up. Plus those rocks in Utah are weak compared to new england granite, you can smash utah sandstone to dust with a fisher price hammer.
 
Armed guards in the National Parks are looking smarter all the time!!! LOL !
 
EX- Scout Leader, now.
I hear the two "leaders" have been expelled by the Boy Scouts. It's pretty bad when your behavior is so bad that you are fired from a volunteer organization. The perpetrators have been setting a very bad example.

Utah Boy Scout leaders expelled after toppling ancient rock in Goblin Valley State Park
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...-leaders-expelled-after-toppling-ancient-rock

The Boy Scout organization is smart enough to purge scum like this. Too bad our government doesn't purge much more scum from government.
 
If they had built a multimillion dollar dam that submerged that rock and several thousand acres around it, they'd have been feted for the new recreational lake and electric power generated.

If they had knocked it over to make way for a roadway, they'd have been applauded for providing access to a scenic area.

It isn't that hard to make similar rock formations. But the perceived quality is in the time it took to form, not the formation alone. The meaning of life is entirely one of perception of an otherwise inanimate universe. People are angry at the metaphorical toppling of their perceptions about the place of human actions in the universe. The rock would have fallen of its own accord eventually. Humans have a hard time seeing themselves as just another aspect of that inanimate universe.

I was going somewhere with this post but I think my train of thought has toppled off its rails. Dang.
 
In other news, the moron proved the defendants case... (in his injury lawsuit)
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Why do people feel the need to steal or destroy stuff that do not belong to them?
 
Plus those rocks in Utah are weak compared to new england granite, you can smash utah sandstone to dust with a fisher price hammer.

Did you forget Old Man of the Mountain in NH? Granite didn't do a whole lot of good in that situation.
 
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Why do people feel the need to steal or destroy stuff that do not belong to them?

They shouldn't have done it, but it was just a stupid rock. No one here went out and moved 'big' rocks around as a kid? :nono:
 
They shouldn't have done it, but it was just a stupid rock. No one here went out and moved 'big' rocks around as a kid? :nono:
There's a big difference between legally moving a rock on your own property, or on commercial property like a gravel pit; then illegally toppling a rock formation in a state park. This dishonest to try to equivocate legal behavior to illegal behavior.
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There's a big difference between legally moving a rock on your own property, or on commercial property like a gravel pit; then illegally toppling a rock formation in a state park. This dishonest to try to equivocate legal behavior to illegal behavior.
:nono:

Not saying it is legal to move. I'm saying it is just a stupid rock.
 
There's a big difference between legally moving a rock on your own property, or on commercial property like a gravel pit; then illegally toppling a rock formation in a state park. This dishonest to try to equivocate legal behavior to illegal behavior.
:nono:

So, I take it you've never skipped stones across a lake in a local, state or national park then...
 
The sad thing is that he may actually have believed it, given the zero-risk, zero-tolerance mindset that is becoming so prevalent.

-Rich
Uh, no.

If you actually watch the video and listen to those d-bags clown around while doing it, there is no freaking way they actually believed they were doing anyone a service.
 
So, I take it you've never skipped stones across a lake in a local, state or national park then...
There is a big difference between skipping stones and "'big' rocks". In most parks it is not illegal to skip stones. In most parks it is illegal to destroy rock formations. It's dishonest to try to equivocate legal behavior to illegal behavior.
 
What is the legal delineation between skipping stones and rock formations? 5lbs? 20lbs? Half Dome? You are so big on legal behavior so please enlighten us savages on what rocks are legal to be tossed.
 
Kinda funny to a libertarian to watch this stuff debated. I guess a libertarian would say 'well, the rock belongs to the US, which belongs to the people, of which I am a person, so the rock belongs to me, so I can do anything I want there'. I guess in some respects, as a citizen you could go around doing anything you want on public land. After all, it's for the people to use, so go ahead and knock over rock formations.

I'm not a very good libertarian some times. I lose my libertarian credentials when I see someone do stuff like this that has no benefit, direct or otherwise to the rest of the people in the country. I would put the probability of that rock falling on someone within the next 500 years at 1 x 10^36 plus or minus two std dev. All it represents is destruction of a natural resource for no purpose, despite his 'safety' message. If he was concerned about safety, we have park rangers already assigned to the park. As a libertarian I would do away with the rangers, and let the rocks fall where they may. If someone is underneath it when it goes over, then Darwin puts another notch on his belt.

Reservoirs, roads, highways, shops, restaurants, and other development serves a purpose to the people, even though they do affect the nature around them, sometimes to a detriment. This action by the Scout leaders was simply malicious, and took away from the value of the park on the whole. I don't think it did anything to improve safety, and surely provided no other extenuating benefit.
 
Weird. that might have just upped it from a made-for-TV, to direct-to-cable.
 
Just one more example of why the BSA should be just as concerned with BMI as they are with SOGI.
 
Boy Scouts Eject Leaders Who Toppled Ancient Rock
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...scouts-eject-leaders-who-toppled-ancient-rock


Taylor and Hall were leading a scouting and Mormon Church outing at the time of the incident.
Toppling over an ancient rock formation in a state park, isn't a good example for leadership to set. It's disappointing that such horrible behavior is affiliated with a scouting and church group, that is supposed to have decent moral standards.
 
There is a big difference between skipping stones and "'big' rocks". In most parks it is not illegal to skip stones. In most parks it is illegal to destroy rock formations. It's dishonest to try to equivocate legal behavior to illegal behavior.

Which law bans it? Reference?
 
Which law bans it? Reference?
I don't know. It's different in different jurisdictions. Some jurisdictions have dedicated laws. Some jurisdictions use general catchall laws; like vandalism, criminal damaging, etc.
 
Turns out one of the tippers was one of the attention whores from the Arias trial as well.
 
Plus those rocks in Utah are weak compared to new england granite, you can smash utah sandstone to dust with a fisher price hammer.

:rofl::rofl: Obviously you are under the impression that all the rocks in Utah are the same. Utah covers 84,898 sq. mi. while New Hampshire is a measly 9,394 sq. mi., there is some diversity in geology in an area that big. (And trust me, the Rockies are not sandstone). But I understand your confusion, most Easterners do not understand the West.
 
Utah region of BSA doesn't seem to be strong on the uniform rules.
 
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