Boy scout leaders 'help' out at national park, destroy million YO rock formation

weilke said:
Utah region of BSA doesn't seem to be strong on the uniform rules.
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The VAST majority of Utah BS members are Mormon..

They make up their own rules.... This guy will get a LDS attorney, he will delay the hearing till he gets one of his "buddy" judges.. And the charged will get dropped and idiot will walk..... :mad2::mad2::mad2::(
 
Fearless Tower said:
No kidding. They go up to those hills in New England and call that snow skiing.
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As someone who comes from out West (Saskatchewan and Alberta), I have come to a simple definition of "Mountain":

A mountain must have a tree line. If there are trees on top, it's a hill. People here in east TN get all flustered at that, what with the Great Smoky "Mountains" right here (I call them hills)
 
JeffDG said:
So that would make skipping stones illegal as well.
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Yup. What is the difference between skipping stones and boulder tipping? Both were left in there place by nature and moving either is raping mother earth. Well maybe not but they are stupid little rocks or precious delicate things. Can't be both. What is sad is all the calls to hang the guys- they blah, blah, blah, lock em up. The dumb Rocks were something else got mashed into being a rock and are in the process of being eroded into something else again. It is retarded to care.
 
JeffDG said:
So that would make skipping stones illegal as well.
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Technically true, but do you want them to write pages of regulations spelling out everything specifically rather than using common sense?
 
Everskyward said:
Technically true, but do you want them to write pages of regulations spelling out everything specifically rather than using common sense?
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How about no laws? The rock stood for millions of years without a law to protect it, then when it had the protection of the law someone pushed it over.:rofl: Besides justifying excessive laws on the basis that they will be applied with common sense never ends well.:nono:
 
ClimbnSink said:
How about no laws? The rock stood for millions of years without a law to protect it, then when it had the protection of the law someone pushed it over.:rofl: Besides justifying excessive laws on the basis that they will be applied with common sense never ends well.:nono:
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They currently use common sense in enforcing the laws. That's why you don't see prosecutions for skipping stones or slapping mosquitoes.
 
No Joy said:
I hear the two "leaders" have been expelled by the Boy Scouts. It's pretty bad when your behavior is so bad that you are fired from a volunteer organization. The perpetrators have been setting a very bad example.

Utah Boy Scout leaders expelled after toppling ancient rock in Goblin Valley State Park
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...-leaders-expelled-after-toppling-ancient-rock

The Boy Scout organization is smart enough to purge scum like this. Too bad our government doesn't purge much more scum from government.
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Heck, they'll probably hire him, he'll fit right in. Looks like a TSA agent if I ever saw one.

-John
 
Poor Mr. Hall has filed now filed copyright claims against the news organizations he claims are improperly "pirating" his rock toppling video (yes, the one that he decided was a dandy idea to upload to the internet.)

"There’s consequences for me doing something wrong, so there should be for everyone else, too ... Our lives have been totally turned upside down and destroyed" :rolleyes:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57034653-78/video-hall-copyright-wednesday.html.csp
Goblin topplers video removed after Utahn files copyright claim

By Jim Dalrymple II | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published Oct 23 2013 03:09 pm • Updated 6 hours ago
The Goblin Valley topplers video, which sparked outrage across the Internet, is disappearing.

By Wednesday afternoon the video posted by The Salt Lake Tribune Oct. 17 had been removed from YouTube. In its place, the video hosting site displayed a short message: "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Dave Hall."

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According to Hall, "a whole lot of people have pirated" personal information. He removed the video because he hopes it will help the controversy surrounding the rock toppling subside.

"There’s consequences for me doing something wrong, so there should be for everyone else, too," he added.

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Hall said Wednesday that he and his attorney have been "in communication" with law enforcement about the incident, though as of Wednesday no charges had been filed. He also reiterated that he and Taylor have received threats and other disruption from outraged viewers of the video.

"Our lives have been totally turned upside down and destroyed," Hall added.
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JeffDG said:
As someone who comes from out West (Saskatchewan and Alberta), I have come to a simple definition of "Mountain":

A mountain must have a tree line. If there are trees on top, it's a hill. People here in east TN get all flustered at that, what with the Great Smoky "Mountains" right here (I call them hills)
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The tree line is affected by the latitude, climate, and the direction of the face, among other things. By your definition a fifty foot high hill somewhere north of the arctic circle is a mountain.
 
Jim Logajan said:
The tree line is affected by the latitude, climate, and the direction of the face, among other things. By your definition a fifty foot high hill somewhere north of the arctic circle is a mountain.
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So is the South Pole, even though it's dead-flat. Or a pile of rocks below sea level in Death Valley.

A more conventional definition is 1000 feet above surrounding terrain. That doesn't let you exclude the easterners, though....
 
denverpilot said:
Too bad the rock didn't fall on him, eh?
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If it did, the widow would hire the famous Utah law firm of Brigham , Young and Smith and sue the guv for 100 million... Win the lawsuit and donate 80 million to the LDS....:mad2::mad2::rolleyes:
 
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