LongRoadBob
Cleared for Takeoff
This is the kind of video I like to find. I feel a little too uncertain of the jockeying and adjustments made at non towered airports when busy. Less formality can be a little daunting for a new student. I fly out of a non towered by so far hasn't been busy. These two twin bros are flying into a pancake breakfast (and are late to it, so folks are beginning to leave) at Cranland (28M) airport which has RWY 18-36. The right seat brother seems to be less gabby but I lik gabby in videos to hear what he thought process is like.
They are kinda starting out by playing it by ear it is seems me. None of what I write here is critique, just observation. They plan on joining downwind(y) for RWY 36. Not sure I got all the points but this brought up lot of thoughts.
As they nearer the airport and announce intentions, 7 miles out or so, they get a comm from a plane behind them following them "about 3 miles behind". 1: first question, is this assumed statute miles or NM in the US?
I like that th bros are easygoing, but still focused I think on the right points.
So they at some point broadcast again, nearer, intentions to 36, and another pilot just says he is back taxi to taking off on 18. They ask for wind, and are told it is a direct crosswind.
I looked at Crankand and didn't see a preferred RWY if just cross or no wind.
They still are planning on 36, decide to circle though to give time to the plane taking off?
But then another is queued up, wanting also to and they see apparently a few more in queue, so even still thinking they can make 36 the pilot decides to instead cross midfield, join LH for RWY 18 to go with the flow. He has now to tell everyone of course, but specifically the plane that was following them of his plan change.
Here I am a little uncertain, sounds like another plane announces he is on hold for 18 and the bros wonder why, I'm guessing because he still would have time to take then as they call base yet another flight coming in from the west, but has them in sight, and somewhere in here is a helicopter but I'm not sure where that fits in.
Anyway, this is just probably a normal Sunday for the experiment pilots, for me it would be a lot of nerves and all until I get used to it. Do I have the main points of what happened? Miss anything importantly? I watched it twice and ther seemed also to be a strange TPA (like 842 or something.)
Also, when they ask for wind, does one ever do a call out also asking for QNH from common freq? It might be important if this were a strange pattern alt, but how is it for experienced pilots, do you eyeball normal patter height without altimeter?
Lastly, I looked at an AD where they listed glide paths each runway. Think 18 was 14:1 and 36 was 10:1 because of trees at the ends. I'm not sure how I'd figure is out on the fly, my glide ratio.
Anyway, sharing for any comments, from anyone and for fellow low time students like me that want to see how you have to adjust plans and be flexible. I am really glad I saw this.
They are kinda starting out by playing it by ear it is seems me. None of what I write here is critique, just observation. They plan on joining downwind(y) for RWY 36. Not sure I got all the points but this brought up lot of thoughts.
As they nearer the airport and announce intentions, 7 miles out or so, they get a comm from a plane behind them following them "about 3 miles behind". 1: first question, is this assumed statute miles or NM in the US?
I like that th bros are easygoing, but still focused I think on the right points.
So they at some point broadcast again, nearer, intentions to 36, and another pilot just says he is back taxi to taking off on 18. They ask for wind, and are told it is a direct crosswind.
I looked at Crankand and didn't see a preferred RWY if just cross or no wind.
They still are planning on 36, decide to circle though to give time to the plane taking off?
But then another is queued up, wanting also to and they see apparently a few more in queue, so even still thinking they can make 36 the pilot decides to instead cross midfield, join LH for RWY 18 to go with the flow. He has now to tell everyone of course, but specifically the plane that was following them of his plan change.
Here I am a little uncertain, sounds like another plane announces he is on hold for 18 and the bros wonder why, I'm guessing because he still would have time to take then as they call base yet another flight coming in from the west, but has them in sight, and somewhere in here is a helicopter but I'm not sure where that fits in.
Anyway, this is just probably a normal Sunday for the experiment pilots, for me it would be a lot of nerves and all until I get used to it. Do I have the main points of what happened? Miss anything importantly? I watched it twice and ther seemed also to be a strange TPA (like 842 or something.)
Also, when they ask for wind, does one ever do a call out also asking for QNH from common freq? It might be important if this were a strange pattern alt, but how is it for experienced pilots, do you eyeball normal patter height without altimeter?
Lastly, I looked at an AD where they listed glide paths each runway. Think 18 was 14:1 and 36 was 10:1 because of trees at the ends. I'm not sure how I'd figure is out on the fly, my glide ratio.
Anyway, sharing for any comments, from anyone and for fellow low time students like me that want to see how you have to adjust plans and be flexible. I am really glad I saw this.