Asking for a friend...... Written question

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  1. Ed Sokol

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    when you take your written and get an 85% on it, Can you take it again at a later time and try for a better score? Just out of curiosity really. I know that could back fire on someone but the thought had popped into my head over this weekend..

    My friend thanks you.
     
  2. muddy00

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    Why take it again passing is passing ?
     
  3. Ed Sokol

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    I know, but out of curiosity....... Could someone if they wanted to? I wouldn't take it again personally.
     
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    Sure, if you want to waste another $140-160 dollars. But why?
     
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    Never had anyone ask me my score on the written. Unless someone is just an over achiever and wants to waste money, there is no reason to take it again, if you passed, you passed.
     
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    Yeah, I never remember my examiner mentioning anything at all about my written test score or the areas I was weak in.
     
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    I'm not in the "passing is passing" crowd. I believe every student should strive for a good score. However, having passed, regardless of the score, no, I would not suggest taking the test again.
     
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    I'm in the "a passing score is a good score" crowd.
     
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    Take your 85% and run. Just learn the answers to the question you missed. A good DPE will know what they were and quiz you on them.
     
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    Sure just get out the old MasterCard and go for it,
     
  11. Timbeck2

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    Pilot - I'm here for the job interview
    American Airlines - what experience do you have?
    Pilot - I have every certification I can get and I've been flying 737s for 10 years. I have a gazillion hours.
    American Airlines - What did you score on your private pilot's exam?
    Pilot - 85
    American Airlines - Oh....sorry, that's just not good enough. Try Mesa, they'll take anyone.
     
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    FIFY.

    :D
     
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    You fixed nothing sir. :mad:

    <----- writes Half Fast on People to Kill list.
     
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    Here is how the FAA looks at it if you do something wrong.

    Written test score.......... Action
    96%+...........................Verbal Counseling
    90%-95%.......................44709 Ride
    <90% ..........................Revocation

    So, I'd retest if I were you.




    Ok, I'm lying. Yeah,hard to believe.

    No benefit to retesting.
     
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    Hope I’m not on your naughty list...

    <chews on fingers in a nervous manner>
     
  16. Timbeck2

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    Of course not. That would be silly. ;)


    you're on the People Not Worth Killing list.
     
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    yeah, wait 24 months..
     
  18. bobmrg

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    No. For a retest the applicant must hand the examiner a failed test result.

    Bob
     
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    You are hereby charged with the heinous crime of, with malice and forthought, of just answering the question asked. How do you plead
     
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    Guess I had a “bad” DPE for my instrument checkride: he didn’t ask me a single question about any subject I got wrong on my written. As a matter of fact, the guy hardly asked me any questions at all (no joke, he didn’t). It was weird, and it actually felt a little like a let down. I studied hard and wanted to impress him with my knowledge, but didn’t get the chance. Guess I shouldn’t complain though...
     
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    Note to self: avoid towered airports in Arizona.
     
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    He was probably aware of that and wasn’t going to give you the satisfaction
     
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    Incorrect, you can retest for a higher score by presenting your passing test result. The test center will destroy your original report and you are stuck with the score on the retest even if it is lower than your first score. The following paragraph is from page 5-10 of FAA order 8080.6F.

    21. Retesting for Higher Score. Test applicants who have received a passing grade may retake the same test for a higher score after 30 days. The applicant must surrender the previous test report to the unit member before retesting. The unit member must destroy the original test report after administering the retest. The latest test taken will reflect the official score.
     
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  24. Ed Sokol

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    He's GUILTY!

     
  25. Ed Sokol

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    Thanks Wheels.....
     
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    Alternative plan: Arrive in an AC-130 and keep the tower on your left hand side at all times. :)
     
  27. Topper

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    I know that feeling, just took my CMEL ride, I way over studied, 95 on the written, did the weight and balance 3 different ways to show him I understood how different loading would affect CG, his only question was if I did one. Questions were simple and basic, i overthought it big time. Even though the oral and ride was easy, I was so physically and mentally drained. I pressured myself to be perfect (which I wasn’t) plus I had a multi vfr only restriction because I took my multi ride prior to my instrument. I had a family vacation in Destin scheduled to leave two days after my ride in a multi and enough weather in the forecast that I didn’t want to have to go vfr. Failure was not an option, just a little extra pressure!
     
  28. azure

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    As others have said, you can retake the written, but since 85% is a passing score, there is normally no reason to retake it.

    Well, there is one situation where you MIGHT. You could have my first CFII for an instructor. He would not sign off a student for the checkride who scored below 90% on the written. So, if you really want to stay with that instructor, and you scored an 85%, you might want to take it again. Personally, if I had been in that situation, I would probably have just fired the instructor. I eventually did in fact, but for a different reason.
     
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    you do know that the next test will have a new question set.....o_O
     
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    Thanks for the correction. Back in the olden days, when there were no testing centers and there were such things as written test examiners, I was one...and I was relying on my memory.

    Bob
     
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  32. Ben2k9

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    Your friend is overthinking it, big time. You (er, I mean your friend) will get a chance to prove you know the other 15% on the checkride.
     
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    Wow! Other than the multi you just described my situation at checkride to a “T”!
    I over-studied, had a trip planned two days after the checkride (with mvfr weather at best predicted), got mid-90s on the written, had 2 w&b one paper/one electronic, 2 flight plans one paper/one ff, etc.
     
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