"Akward Landing" at KASH

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  1. NHWannabe

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    Interesting way to frame it.

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    Oh my GAWD!




    The wheels fell off after take off! Damn lucky if ya ask me....
     
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    Airplanes with retractable gear are cool. Airplanes with extendable gear are even cooler.
     
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    Humphhhh.... not even close to the center line....




    Happy to hear no injuries....except maybe to pride....
     
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    I can’t tell from the pic.. is he rescuing his golf clubs?
     
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    Man, and not even close to the centerline.
     
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    What model of Cessna is that? 182 RG?
     
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    I'm wondering why the prop doesn't look like it's bent.
     
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    Would you have preferred that the news article calls it a "crash" instead of an "awkward landing"?
     
  13. Dan Thomas

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    Belly skin has no directional preferences like wheels do. There's a video on YouTube, taken from the cockpit of an R182, of a gear-up landing. The airplane skids in whatever direction it feels like. The crown of the runway will usually run it off to the side.
     
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    I can darn near see the airplane blushing with how awkward it is!
     
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    I don't know if I have a preference I just thought the "headline" was odd, no malice on my part.
     
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    That prop looks a little short to me.
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    Compared to this (slightly different angle).
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    Nope. No teardown unless the blades hit something and then it depends on what you hit, how severe, which engine....
     
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    Why shut down the engine? You're trying to save who money, the insurance company? Land with the motor running and give yourself an extra margin of error.
     
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    I agree about margin for error, but that may not have been a factor here as the article doesn't say.

    The insurance company only pays for the stuff damaged in the gear up, including a tear down if you have a prop strike. However, the insurance company WILL NOT buy you a new engine or give you a fresh overhaul for a prop strike. The insurance company is only liable for the stuff that is damaged from the prop strike not wear and tear such as your two jugs that were at 65 on the last annual or your cam with the rounded off lobe.
     
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    In an accident like this will they rebuild to total out the plane??
     
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    Depends on the value of the plane vs the cost of repairs. With only being belly skins (as far as I can tell) it's probably not totaled. Each state and insurance policy will determine the cost of repair vs cost of replacement %.

    Typically, you'll never get full value when your plane/car/truck/boat is involved in a total loss incident unless you have a "replacement cost" policy. Most people have an "actual cash value" policy. Which means, just because you think your plane is worth $50k, the insurance company is most likely gonna find an appraiser to value it at significantly less or it's "actual value" at the time of the loss.

    A large part of my legal practice involves these types of scenarios everyday. Nobody, including the insurance company, is every happy with the final price in a property settlement. Insurance company always thinks its too high, the person who suffered the loss always thinks its too low. Unless you have a replacement cost policy, your life can become a living hell dealing with an insurance company on a claim.
     
  24. danhagan

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    "Sudden Engine Stop" is more than pavement and includes water and tall grass ... my mechanic was showing me the FAA criteria as there was a plane I saw that had a " um landing" in water 10 hours after engine replacement, and was NOT inspected and should have been after the "water" landing.
     
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    So, the blades hit something other than air...
     
  26. asicer

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    Is "tall" subjective?
     
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    Highly! :D
     
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    Not really (as far as tall grass), if there's a decrease in RPM, you meet the criteria ... if you're in a 3 blade taildragger with huge tires, tall grass would be REALLY tall.
     
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    That's one way to get the oil residue off the belly.
     
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    Agreed, the prop looks short. Perhaps it is curled but you cannot tell from that angle. The side photo in the article is blurred so it is herd to know.
     
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    I "Q-tipped" a prop, and it was perfectly symmetrical. No extra engine vibration! But it didn't pull very well. I still had a tear-down inspection.