Airlines Playing 20 Questions

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  1. James331

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    The TSA
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    I can see the interview going this way

    Checkin staff “Question 1... are you a terrorist ?”

    Passenger “No”

    Checkin staff “Welcome aboard”


    It’s as stupid as the procedure the Brits implementated at the height of the IRA activity
     
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    Canada is so nice they let you leave the country before you even get on the plane...

    Of course it makes some sense logistically to clear US immigration and customs before departing Calgary when flying to the US. Can’t say it’s a time saver though.
     
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    No surprise to me. Landing in Afghanistan? Remember that India has some real security concerns with Pakistan who also messes with Afghanistan, I'm not surprised at all.
     
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    Right. "Hold me up" or "Kidnap me"
     
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    Which is exactly why my luggage tags were my university, not my full-time employer, and had my university address and phone #.

    Momma didn't raise no dumb chile...
     
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    In the US airlines are required to submit it electronically - I've seen Customs come on and pull people off of flights - some were questioned and returned, others were not seen again.

    By the way, full exit controls ARE coming to the US: http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...-immigration-checks-leave-us-not-just-arrive/

    I got detained and questioned at Amsterdam one time where the airline lost my checked bag and I was the last one out of the baggage area. They were polite, x-rayed my briefcase, and asked a few questions. My checked bag showed a day later.

    I do that too. Sometimes the questioners take it as evasive. A friend got a retaliatory 45 minute search at Heathrow when he answered generically and got annoyed as they asked deeper and more detailed questions - that was within the last month.

    I'd watch and not board until I saw that they'd already pulled folks aside.

    Yep.
     
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    With our TSA very probably. The source of this is the Israelis and the answers aren't as much as their focus as other indicators they can pick up during a conversation.
     
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    Israel has been doing this 20-questions thing for a long time. There's some science behind it, actually... they're watching for "tells" when the questions are asked, and no... they don't expect anyone will be dumb enough to answer that they're doing bad things in the affirmative.

    It's highly likely that there's a camera somewhere in your field of view watching for small details when you're being questioned, too... look for it. :)
     
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    Ahh, you beat me to it. :)
     
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    I expect most Canadians know the difference. But there's a remarkable number of southern US citizens that have no clue where Montana is.
     
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    Maybe not. But if you fly your airplane across the border into Canada you have to file that stupid exit eAPIS to get out legally. When you head back home the country you are leaving doesn't require any such thing (and nobody will check your passport before departure either). ;)
     
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    That sounds like an exciting trip! I got detained in The Gambia because they thought we were drug smuggling. Turned out that the head of our CPR baby mannequin had this in it (sand) for weight. Nice design, guys...

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    But I doubt if many if any TSA folks can read another person well enough to discern any sort of deception, malfeasance, etc.
     
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    Is it in the southeast?
     
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    Don't be too sure. Plenty of Americans have no idea New Mexico is part of the US.

    Case in point...girl that worked for me went to South Carolina for college. Freshman year they put her in the international dorm because she was from another country. Higher Ed at its finest.
     
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    Heh heh... When I drove through Canada, there were several Canadians that didn't have a clue where Alaska was.

    Getting a bit more local, I recently had a FB chat with a friend of mine that had recently moved to Tennessee. She told me the town she had moved to. I asked if that was in eastern Tennessee. She said, "I think it is." I looked it up on Mapquest and it was pretty damn near the North Carolina border.
     
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    Actually, some of them are specifically trained for exactly that, hence the conversational questioning that I mentioned a whole bunch of posts ago. I'll agree those folks are probably in the vast minority of the Tub Stacker's Amalgamated.
     
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    This right here. If you start sweating all of sudden, look nervous, glancing around....you better have a reasonable excuse for that behavior.
     
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    Standing in the TSA line like...
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    TSA: Has anyone introduced any objects into your luggage without your knowledge?

    ME: If they did it without my knowledge, how would I know?

    TSA: That’s why we ask.
     
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    Fixed that for you.
     
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    Wouldn't matter...if your ticket was "randomly selected", you got searched.

    And it wasn't random. I fit the profile They thought was dangerous at the time, apparently because it was a profile that the 9/11 terrorists didn't use.
     
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    Well, that points out how well the trillions we've spent on "education" over the last 50 years has panned out.
     
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    Yeah, like the f'ing line is so long and slow moving that you're running a real risk of missing your flight.
     
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    Well, they got you there!
     
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    Except the TSA aren't cops. They are baggage screeners dressed like cops. They literally can't touch you.
     
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    I ran into this nonsense requiring me to remove all electronics larger than a cell phone for the first time Friday leaving Kauai.

    I swear that TSA at the Lihue airport is the worst, most incompetent, overbearing bunch of McDonalds rejects in the country. I love going to that island for vacation, but I dread dealing with the TSA idiots there more than anywhere else. Didn't have TSA Pre-check this time as we were riding Island Air over to Oahu before catching UA the rest of the say. At least riding UA the rest of the way and having lifetime status on them got us out of having pay to check bags. Having to take my camera and tablet out was the least of the problems. My wife was delayed as they were training new idiots on how to swab for explosives, and they swabbed every package of candy she bought at an ABC store. My kids were traveling with their 3 year olds and got held up. It's amazing how those fools can destroy the happiness that you get visiting that island so fast leaving it. Good grief, at least wait for the airlines to get you upset with their continually shrinking seats. And after all this one of them had the nerve to wish me a pleasant day. After they had done their best to ruin it. Did I mention how much I detest TSA at the Lihue airport?

    I don't have these problems anywhere else in the world, and not even most places in the US.

    I had a TSA drone at SEA ask me one day what I was doing. I answered, "Doing my imitation of self loading cargo on a pressurized aluminum mailing tube!" Shut him down cold and he didn't ask another stupid question.

    One more trip this year and I'm done with airlines until January.
     
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    I tell people that New Mexico is neither new nor is it Mexico. Most people just laugh in that I don't understand type of laugh....
     
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    Well why is it called New if it ain't new? I mean, NH, Ny, Nj are new. Why wouldn't NM be? :confused:
     
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    They literally can and do touch you.
     
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    Land of Enchantment... what should I expect, something like Wonderland, where's Alice?

    Ok, New Mexico encompasses the Chihuahuan Desert and the Sangre de Cristo Mountains... sounds like Mexico to me!
     
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    New Mexico is the 47th state, so I guess it is newer than 46 other states.

    But a lot of the little towns still look very similar to what they looked like 75 years ago....
     
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    You serious?

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    And a lot of Spanish spoken here as well, also Navajo. Fly just a little north of the border and you will see thousands upon thousands of well worn trails coming from the border heading north.
     
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    Yep, and their new rules tell the to use the fronts of their hands and feel everything. A real opportunity for those that are interested in the same sex...
     
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    They literally touch me almost every time I fly.
     
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    I get felt up... errr... patted down far more when I go through the modern expensive high tech scanners than through the old fashioned metal detector. What an improvement!