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tonycondon

tonycondon

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why do I think that an IFR 150/2 would be just a great first airplane?
 
It IS a great plane if you're not in a hurry to get anywhere and you don't want to carry a lot of bulky stuff.

Considering Leah weighs like 37lbs and she has all that fancy ultra-light super-small camping gear, and considering that you already survived a trip to 6Y9 in a Citabria, I say it's a good sell for you.

As for me, who has become spoiled with 160kts, and has substantial time in a 152 with my knees hitting the yoke, it won't fit for me.

To each, his own.
 
i learned to fly and got my instrument rating in 152's. Did a bit of instructing in 150's over at Green Castle.

seems like decent examples with basic IFR instrumentation and mid time engines can be had in the low to mid 20's.
 
I learned in 150s in California. I instructed in 152s in Colorado. At sea level I think they would be a fine first airplane as long as you are on the small side and don't plan on carrying much. I would never suggest anyone buy one here, though. 152s in Colorado in the summer were sometimes downright scary. Students definitely learned the importance of airspeed control, however.
 
Everskyward said:
152s in Colorado in the summer were sometimes downright scary. Students definitely learned the importance of airspeed control, however.
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Ha, yeah. I noticed the lack of 150's and 152's in CO. More 172's and now you see a lot of Diamonds also. I think their long wing helps.

The female instructor at Leadville I talked to when I flew up there instructs in a 150 HP 172!
 
Are there options for more powerful engines on the 150?

A good two seater sounds like a fine option for a young, single, CFI who doesn't need to travel far and fast. Easy to maintain, insure, etc.
 
CJones said:
Considering Leah weighs like 37lbs and she has all that fancy ultra-light super-small camping gear, and considering that you already survived a trip to 6Y9 in a Citabria, I say it's a good sell for you.
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I think 37 lbs is a high side estimate. I know she weighs less than my dog. ;)

As for me, who has become spoiled with 160kts, and has substantial time in a 152 with my knees hitting the yoke, it won't fit for me.
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Yeah, I once sat in a 152. It was a 152 Aerobat. I was talking to a pilot and asked him what he thought of them. His response "Well, they're neat little planes, but... have you ever sat in one?" "Nope" "Ok, come with me" He was about Tony's size, and I'm about my size (helpful comparisons for people who've never met Tony or me ;)). Neither of us are big people. We were certainly very close together and my knees were hitting the yoke. So much for making sure controls are free!

Also, getting spoiled flying the Mooney and tending to have trips where I'm trying to travel long distances, I wouldn't want to have a plane that slow. Additionally, it's not uncommon for me to have reasons to carry more than 2 people and a small amount of luggage. I find that the plane is more often loaded up than my car.

For you though, Tony, I don't see any reason why you're crazy or anything's wrong with you. If you like the plane and it fits your mission, what's the problem? I'd say the better question is what's wrong with people like me who want a pressurized cabin class twin? :)
 
TMetzinger said:
Are there options for more powerful engines on the 150?

A good two seater sounds like a fine option for a young, single, CFI who doesn't need to travel far and fast. Easy to maintain, insure, etc.
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I've heard of a 150/150. A 150 HP engine is put in the plane. I think it seats one and is generally used for banner towing and similar activities.

Scott's reply is more sensible for most of us.
 
I looked at the 152 (VFR only) pretty seriously not along ago. Great little airplanes and an IFR equiped one would be great. Wife didn't like it though :rolleyes:

Training in the 152 was a blast, and flying the 172SP now is really nice, but some day's I just want to get back out there and bore holes in the sky doing S-turns up the PA Northeast Extension,... all this typing about it,.. I may have to bag work one day this week :hairraise:
 
Nothing at all wrong with 150s. Great little airplanes if you love flying. If you just want to get there, perhaps not so good.
 
In the weight, speed, size class of the the 150/152 I much prefer the Piper Tomahawk. More room, two doors like the Cessna, great visibility and flies like a big plane.
 
Nothing wrong with it, as long as you hang a 180 horse engine on it, and bolt a towhook to the tail :)
 
There's nothing wrong with you. My first airplane was a C150 (named Penelope). She carried us all over place, including more than a few trips from Pennsylvania to Georgia, Florida, and back - IFR in IMC. Have fun!
 
I had a 150K taildragger with a Horton kit on it when my Maule got wrecked and was being rebuilt...decent little airplane. Single nav, dual comm, VFR GPS (Flybuddy, maybe?) I think I put about 75 hours on it, but only flew it IFR once...ANE to the airport where I'm based now. Took a LONG time to get around the west side of MSP to go southbound, shot the VOR approach at one airport, broke out, cancelled IFR and got a special outbound (about 800' ceilings, unrestricted vis, IIRC) to my destination that only had NDB approaches. I'd find me a cheap IFR GPS if I were doing that again ;)

Works great, as long as you're not in a big hurry...

Fly safe!

David
 
What wrong with you?

What's wrong with a Cherokee 140? :D
 
i think there is a gross weight increase with the engine upgrade. there are 150 and 180 hp options. If i was going to upgrade to 150 hp I would probably also spring for the long range tanks so that i could still fly the thing decent distance between stops.

the ultimate: a 150/150 with long range tanks and a towhook, IFR equipped with a 430. Would just need Leah to get her private and 100 hrs so she could tow :)
 
tonycondon said:
rain protection and in the 150 in the summer when i get hot i can open the window.
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Rain protection? Leah can fit under a low wing, too. :D

With a 140 you'd have more cargo room for ... stowing a glider in the back.
 
tonycondon said:
she has top of the line rain gear. i dont own an umbrella.
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If you bought a 150 you'd have a big umbrella that you could fit most of your friends under, and can get you someplace other than in a hurricane. Try that with a normal umbrella. ;)
 
4.1 hours in a C-150 when i was a student. Couldn't get the seat back far enough and my legs hit the bottom of the panel every time I went for the brakes. I was not sorry to see the club sell it and replace it with an old C-172H. Nice little planes if you can fit in one and they meet the needs for the flight, however.
 
one like this would be a great airframe to start with i think. has the 430, engine is nearly timed out, price is a bit high.
 
mikea said:
OK, that's it. We need contributions to the POA "Buy Tony an umbrella" fund. They start at $5.99 at Walgreens. :D
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I guess I better not say anything about putting in my $.02 worth for a while...:rolleyes:
 
Cherokee II sailplane
Cessna 150 airplane
Tony, You are a true Renaissance man. My hat's off to you. :cheerswine:
 
For a MUCH more comfortable cabin get a Beech Skipper.

Though the prices seem to run about double a 150/152 (even though both use the same engine).
 
Most of my training was in a 152 with the std 112hp (in Colorado). Yes it was a dog when it came to getting to TPA. Recently my instructor (or should I say former instructor) bought a 150/150hp. I took a ride in it, and what a difference. TPA before we got to the end of the runway (ok maybe not quite, but it sure climbed great). My instructor flew the plane back from CA, and said that while over the Sierras he was at 14,000 MSL and still climbing @ 500fpm. I not sure you could even get a std 150/152 to 14,000'. If I were to get a 150, it would most certainly have a 150hp engine.
 
Cap'n Jack said:
I've heard of a 150/150. A 150 HP engine is put in the plane. I think it seats one and is generally used for banner towing and similar activities.

Scott's reply is more sensible for most of us.
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FWIW a guy who owned a 150 I looked at last year said he'd previously owned a 150/150 - and that it was the worst plane he'd ever had. He didn't elaborate.

Several years ago I knew the owner of another 150/150 - and tried to bum a ride in it. He always changed the subject, so it never happened. I've heard that, due to gross weight limitations, they are pretty much a one-person airplane.

Earlier this year I went to look at a 150/150. Turns ut that the owner had only a student license - and I wasn't current at that time - so we didn't fly. The maintenence on that plane was of doubtful quality, so I didn't go back later.

Seems I have a jinx where 150/150s are concerned.

Dave
 
I can fly either the club 172's 0r 150's. I fly a 172 w/ Passengers, but solo I prefer the 150. It just feels good. DaveR
 
What's wrong with you Tony? Gee, where to start.

Obviously you possess an abundance of self confidence and have little or no concern about what other people think about you. This is evident in your desire to own a C150 and also in your choice of hats.

If you were a little more like the rest of us you'd be way too concerned about what the airport bums will say when you taxi up in an underpowered, poorly equipped relic of the 70's with a payload approximately equal to a Big Wheel.

I could go on....

Your friend,

C
 
gibbons said:
What's wrong with you Tony? Gee, where to start.

Obviously you possess an abundance of self confidence and have little or no concern about what other people think about you. This is evident in your desire to own a C150 and also in your choice of hats.

If you were a little more like the rest of us you'd be way too concerned about what the airport bums will say when you taxi up in an underpowered, poorly equipped relic of the 70's with a payload approximately equal to a Big Wheel.

I could go on....

Your friend,

C
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this is the friend who welcomed me with open arms last year when i flew down in a 150, even let me park the thing right in front of his hangar!! must've been really embarassed to be associated with me :)
 
gibbons said:
What's wrong with you Tony? Gee, where to start.

Obviously you possess an abundance of self confidence and have little or no concern about what other people think about you. This is evident in your desire to own a C150 and also in your choice of hats.

If you were a little more like the rest of us you'd be way too concerned about what the airport bums will say when you taxi up in an underpowered, poorly equipped relic of the 70's with a payload approximately equal to a Big Wheel.

I could go on....

Your friend,

C
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tonycondon said:
this is the friend who welcomed me with open arms last year when i flew down in a 150, even let me park the thing right in front of his hangar!! must've been really embarassed to be associated with me :)
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If Tony was REALLY secure in his skin he'd drive minivan like me.

It took me a while but I finally figured out I could be going 98 MPH and the other drivers just know they have to pass me....on the right...on a one lane road. :rolleyes:
 
bbchien said:
It's a versatile trainer.....so long as you're a small-ish CFI.
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half fuel works pretty well with normal size students. of course you only have 1.5 hrs of fuel or so but thats OK for an hour lesson. the thing i like about teaching in the 150 is that W&B and performance is part Lesson 1.
 
When I bitched about flying the 172 rather than the 152, and the extra cost, my instructor booked us in to the 152 for the next lesson. First step- W&B (wow!). THen, experience "climb" performance on a full-gross hot day.

And the togetherness. There was that, too!

I never complained again.

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Doesn't Dr. Gil's son have a 152 with a 172 wing and 180 HP (or something like that)?
 
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