VA Aviator
Pre-takeoff checklist
I haven't been instrument current in almost a decade, so forgive me if I'm just being dumb and over-thinking this.
I was watching this video and I noticed something odd about the way the IFR clearance was given. I've watched the first 10 minutes over and over to see if I missed something.
Here is a synopsis if you don't want to watch the first 10 minutes of the video:
The flight departs under what appears to be VMC
The pilot contacts approach control and the following exchange with ATC takes place:
N390GM: Indy premier 390GM off executive
Indy: N390GM Indy Approach maintain VFR squawk 6721
N390GM: 6721 0GM
Indy: 390GM Radar contact 2 miles NE (Indy Executive), climb and maintain 13,000, proceed direct SNEVA, say altitude leaving
N390GM: 13,000 direct SNEVA We're out of 3900, 0GM
Given the controller provided a code and instructed the pilot to "remain VFR" it would seem to me that this was a VFR departure/airborne clearance scenario. However, what struck me as being odd was that a "traditional" clearance wasn't given - no clearance limit, no final altitude, no routing other than the fix on the SID. A quick check of the AIM seems to indicate that nothing has changed in this regard.
I suppose that one possible explanation is that a clearance could have been obtained on the ground but the transponder was not set (if you pause at 4:33 you can see the 1200 code on the FMS). Seeing the 1200 code and thinking it was a VFR departure/airborne clearance, the controller would have assigned the code and usual "maintain VFR" but once he went to obtain the clearance he saw that the flight was in fact already under IFR.
Or, is this some new way of saying "cleared to the destination as filed" with fewer words?
Or just bad phrasology/communication?
I was watching this video and I noticed something odd about the way the IFR clearance was given. I've watched the first 10 minutes over and over to see if I missed something.
Here is a synopsis if you don't want to watch the first 10 minutes of the video:
The flight departs under what appears to be VMC
The pilot contacts approach control and the following exchange with ATC takes place:
N390GM: Indy premier 390GM off executive
Indy: N390GM Indy Approach maintain VFR squawk 6721
N390GM: 6721 0GM
Indy: 390GM Radar contact 2 miles NE (Indy Executive), climb and maintain 13,000, proceed direct SNEVA, say altitude leaving
N390GM: 13,000 direct SNEVA We're out of 3900, 0GM
Given the controller provided a code and instructed the pilot to "remain VFR" it would seem to me that this was a VFR departure/airborne clearance scenario. However, what struck me as being odd was that a "traditional" clearance wasn't given - no clearance limit, no final altitude, no routing other than the fix on the SID. A quick check of the AIM seems to indicate that nothing has changed in this regard.
I suppose that one possible explanation is that a clearance could have been obtained on the ground but the transponder was not set (if you pause at 4:33 you can see the 1200 code on the FMS). Seeing the 1200 code and thinking it was a VFR departure/airborne clearance, the controller would have assigned the code and usual "maintain VFR" but once he went to obtain the clearance he saw that the flight was in fact already under IFR.
Or, is this some new way of saying "cleared to the destination as filed" with fewer words?
Or just bad phrasology/communication?