brien23
Cleared for Takeoff
Kokh Jump plane engine out landing hits Madrona tree about 20'up tore left wing off and front of C-182. Pilot and jumper were ejected, pilot suffered a broken collar bone jumper ok .
Kokh Jump
Engine failure at low level?
I can imagine a flightpath where hitting the tree was necessary....but....there appears to be a lot of open space around that tree.
10:1 he never learned the rule, "Always look where you want to go, not at what you want to miss." If you are looking at what you want to avoid, sure as **** you'll hit it. Where your eyes point, your body will go.
Ha my thoughts exactly.I can imagine a flightpath where hitting the tree was necessary....but....there appears to be a lot of open space around that tree.
The Shore?? is the bluff east of the 25 end of OKH.Should have ditched, near the shore.
10:1 he never learned the rule, "Always look where you want to go, not at what you want to miss." If you are looking at what you want to avoid, sure as **** you'll hit it. Where your eyes point, your body will go.
Where I jump our 'racetrack' takes us 20 miles north. No gliding back from there. Its not like we do a 3 mile circle right over the DZ
The Shore?? is the bluff east of the 25 end of OKH.
He got caught in the rotor curl off the bluff, and the first person to the scene told me there was no smell of fuel leaking, or any in the gascolator. FAA inspector found no fuel in the carb.
location of the wreckage is at the end of lori lane just short of the OKH runway and a bit south of the glide path.
rumor is he was dead sticking it back to the airport and got caught in the sink hole we all know and dread on the east end over the cliff.
wreckage shows a lack of forward speed. it hit the tree near the fuselage and didn't tear it off or break the tree.
Gas is weight and they only put in what they are going to use and not much more. Less weight faster climb to altitude and more jumpers inside the plane. They might have cut this a little too close. Normally since they are directly over the airport it is not a big deal.
I can imagine a flightpath where hitting the tree was necessary....but....there appears to be a lot of open space around that tree.
Gas is weight and they only put in what they are going to use and not much more. Less weight faster climb to altitude and more jumpers inside the plane. They might have cut this a little too close. Normally since they are directly over the airport it is not a big deal.
The higher end DZs will still carry extra "stuff happens" fuel
That, and,,, a steep nose down decent will unport the fuel pick up ports in the fuel tanks since they are at the rear of the tanks....
Most pilots would agree the only time you have too much fuel is when your on fire. How much extra is a fine line, too little and your a glider too much and you have to leave something behind like a jumper.The higher end DZs will still carry extra "stuff happens" fuel
Most pilots would agree the only time you have too much fuel is when your on fire. How much extra is a fine line, too little and your a glider too much and you have to leave something behind like a jumper.
Better to leave a jumper than destroy your DZ between the death, destruction of a jump ship and bad press.
I've never had to leave a jumper due to how much fuel I took on, I also never came close to running out of fuel.
Yeah, it's really not that tough to fill the plane and haul enough fuel to still have some to spare.
But jump planes sure seem to run out often. I've known two DZs over about 5-6 years (one shut down for a while, then moved then split and went two different directions). One of them ran out of fuel returning to the field, got low and clipped an obstruction, flipping the 182. Pilot had minor injuries. When I saw it a week or so later, the plane was in two pieces.
So I guess not all jump pilots and drop zones have the same awesome skill set as jump pilots here on POA.
How low are you jumping from?
But jump planes sure seem to run out often. I've known two DZs over about 5-6 years (one shut down for a while, then moved then split and went two different directions). One of them ran out of fuel returning to the field, got low and clipped an obstruction, flipping the 182. Pilot had minor injuries. When I saw it a week or so later, the plane was in two pieces.
So I guess not all jump pilots and drop zones have the same awesome skill set as jump pilots here on POA.
13500' AGL, Twin Otter or Caravan
Either of those should make 20 miles from that properly managed.