Why is this political thread not in SZ?
Disclaimer: I'm a pretty big fan of the Pauls.... Ron tends to go off the deep end at times though even I have to admit it.
IDK... we've been borrowing and playing shell games since the late 70s or so to cover up the fact growth in the US hasn't been very good since our post WWII boost ran out. Things aren't right, I think more and more people are feeling it and getting angry. I'm not sure what the answer is, how it will happen, or when, but I think most of us who pay attention to this stuff have been sitting back thinking it can't just keep on going on forever. Will it be tomorrow or 20 years from now? No clue but I think it will eventually happen if nothing major happens to change things.
Personally, I don't bet on a major economic/societal collapse... but I like to keep myself in position where I won't be SOL if it does happen. We're soon to be debt free with most of our assets in farmland so all we absolutely have to afford is a power bill and food. Food wise my wife likes to raise chickens, I like to garden... not for prepping purposes we just like doing it and having the fresh food. But... if SHTF it's there. I've got wild game on my property and lots of firewood... probably should get a hand saw at some point seeing as how in an epic disaster there may not be any gas for a chainsaw. I also want to get some solar panels and a windmill up sometime.... supplement my power bill if everything is fine, keep the lights on for the apocalypse. Can't go wrong there.
I keep money invested in various things too... but I can afford to lose it all and still be ok. I don't think it's ever wise to put all your eggs in one basket and hope it keeps going well.
As long as the populist voter can be bought with a cheap phone, the problems of this county will continue to grow.I don't think most voters listen to complex arguments or consider whether their position is wrong. I think they just vote based on the memes they see in their facebook friend feed.
Ron Paul just annihilated all the other candidates in every single debate yet he's too "cooky" because he doesn't want to keep going down the same failed roads over and over. Yet we all talk about how bad things are and how we need a change.
I don't get it.
I am really surprised and dismayed that a third party has not been able to gain wide support as both the Dems and GOP suck major dick. Even though Rand is technically GOP, I plan on voting for him in the primary as he is more Libertarian than GOP. Still he is not a perfect alternative.
Carefully scripted, the fellow asking the questions is a shill. Ron wants you to buy his book as only he knows "what's really going on. " He's a broken record.
A broken record may play the correct message over and over and over.
But in this case the message is wrong and once again......you are wrong.
Convert to Islam cause they have the only strong community left. Strong communities survive.
This.....
Things are broken and I for one don't know if we can rely on either party to help get us on the right track.
Well, you've just described most of the country.There are many voices warning about the economic time bombs we have doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on especially the last six years.
Only a fool or the ignorant would deny this.
Yeah, let's convert to a religious dictator.
Oh I forgot we did that 6 years ago.
What's frightening is that I know quite a few highly educated liberals who are absolutely, resolutely convinced that national debt does not matter, because our monetary system is all a theoretical construct.
It used to be the Republicans who were pushing that idea.
Why would that matter? Whether you default on Aunt Bessie, or Ho Chi Minh, it's going to be ugly.Can any one here tell me where the twenty trillion is owed?
Treasury notes/bills or what ever you like to call them, who holds them?
It will be more than ugly.Why would that matter? Whether you default on Aunt Bessie, or Ho Chi Minh, it's going to be ugly.
I like the folks who say that Social Security is just fine, cuz that money has been lent to the federal government -- as if that makes it okay.
Really? In my 56 years, I can't remember a single Republican saying "The National Debt doesn't matter." Just the opposite, in fact...
Can any one here tell me where the twenty trillion is owed?
Treasury notes/bills or what ever you like to call them, who holds them?
Once again proving that there a **** - ton of RINOs out there.
It will be more than ugly.
If you have a 401k type retirement, or a union pension fund you hold the "T" bills. Default on "T" bils bankrupt the american people.
Think that will be ugly? Ugly is where it starts.
Once again proving that there a **** - ton of RINOs out there.
It will be more than ugly.
If you have a 401k type retirement, or a union pension fund you hold the "T" bills. Default on "T" bils bankrupt the american people.
Think that will be ugly? Ugly is where it starts.
It's hard to find politicians of either party who actually do anything about reducing deficits, as opposed to giving lip service to it.
Ron knows that at almost 200 bucks a copy for 280 pages he can't lose! he and " Rand" would have been better off staying in the eye repair business.
Wouldn't want to lose an election right?
Don't want to kill the candyman. Everyone loves free candy.
Hell just be for a tiny percentage of deficit reduction and your the baby killing granny murdering devil.