Malaysian Airliner missing?

China claiming Malaysia is botching it, will look "cute" once we know what their real involvement is. I think they're making a bit too much noise for a flight that wasn't departing or leaving China.
 
ClimbnSink said:
Do we believe the rumor of a leak or the gov denial of the leak? Better question nevermind what they say where are they actually looking?
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It sounds to me like they sent the americans to search the western zone

Someone knows something they arent telling.
 
denverpilot said:
China claiming Malaysia is botching it, will look "cute" once we know what their real involvement is. I think they're making a bit too much noise for a flight that wasn't departing or leaving China.
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There were quite a few Chinese citizens on board. I would expect China to be making noise at this point.
 
DavidWhite said:
It sounds to me like they sent the americans to search the western zone

Someone knows something they arent telling.
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If anything, this sounds more and more like crew incapacitation to me.

If that's the case -- it just kept-on-keeping-on -- same heading and altitude -- this is starting to sound like they pulled a Payne Stewart. Some pressure vessel fault, maybe sheered the transponder in the process, incapacitated everyone.... Yet, the crew still has masks -- just like Payne Stewart's pilots did as well, I guess. Might also explain the garbled transmission heard by another plane...
 
Martymccasland said:
If anything, this sounds more and more like crew incapacitation to me.

If that's the case -- it just kept-on-keeping-on -- same heading and altitude -- this is starting to sound like they pulled a Payne Stewart. Some pressure vessel fault, maybe sheered the transponder in the process, incapacitated everyone.... Yet, the crew still has masks -- just like Payne Stewart's pilots did as well, I guess. Might also explain the garbled transmission heard by another plane...
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yeah but then where the hell did the plane end up? It would have crashed over land and flown over several countries that would have undoubtedly sent up fighters to intercept it.
 
This thread has gone completely

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Dav8or said:
What makes you think they don't? This story has had the feel of managed information from the get go.
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The story has sounded like a lot of hearsay with no documentation to me. So far we know nothing concrete, and have a few reports with less than verifiably accurate source mentioning strained communications and unintelligible. We really don't know anything at this time.
 
DavidWhite said:
I imagine basically any country that barely had running water 50 years ago is the same way.
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Oh no, don't be confused, the entirety of indochina including Indonesia went through the industrial revolution as mineral rich European colonies. You need to talk mom into letting you go to SE Asia with me...
 
Well, to be fair I find managing the incident and release of info to the media is the same the world over. Malaysian 'authorities' are reacting like pretty much any other country in the situation.

To say that this particular situation is fluid would be an understatement. We don't have a track, crash, debris, contact, etc. What would the authorities have to say?
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Yeah, the lips are really over the top. Other things are a bit (spilling) over the top too...
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I don't mind the uhhh....overflowingness

If you put paper bags over their heads and told them to not talk it'd probably be ok for a night.

You'd probably end up with an itch down below though......
 
DavidWhite said:
I don't mind the uhhh....overflowingness

If you put paper bags over their heads and told them to not talk it'd probably be ok for a night.

You'd probably end up with an itch down below though......
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Use higher than "down below".:wink2:
 
FastEddieB said:
I would assume there are alarms to alert them of low cabin pressure.

Anyone know for sure?
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Fairly certain the alert is a EICAS message such as the one depicted below. It will read CABIN ALT if the air pressure gets too low (ie cabin altitude gets too high). It will be accompanied by a master caution light also.

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During the cruise portion there would normally be no other advisory messages on the EICAS making anything quiet noticeable.
 
airdale said:
The first thing that happens on a missing person search in the US is a cell phone forensics check. If the phone is talking to a tower (not someone on the phone, just that the phone has registered itself with the tower) they should be able to know that very quickly. They should also know all the towers with which the phone has registered along the way. (Not that there are many towers in the ocean.) So if a victim's cell phone is really connecting they should very quickly have the phone located to within a small circle around one tower.

There is a lot of goofy reporting here. If there was a primary return on the military radar why did it take days for that to be brought forward? Ditto, the cell phone stories but no cell phone forensics activity reported? Nothing mentioned about an ADS-B Out signal, though flightaware's info sort of implies that the track is from ADS rather than from radar.
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The plane was reportedly equipped with an on-board GSM node to provide in-flight GSM services. Not sure whether that's true or not, but if so, it might very well affect the ability to pull location data.

N801BH said:
Those motors, flying at 3000msl, would be sucking fuel like no tomorrow.. I don't think it could have made the African continent flying that low...:nono:
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The report this AM was the supposed military tracking showed the plane at FL295. If that's true, then there would be quite a bit of range.

Fearless Tower said:
I think there is still more information that hasn't been released. So far they have said that the airplane turned around and descended 1000 meters and headed west (although the article David linked says at some point it 'climbed' 1000 meters). The latest reports of the military radar tracking say the contact was lost in the middle of the Strait of Malacca, but they have not said whether it simply disappeared from radar or sudden descent. It is also a little interesting that the new search area is north west of the last reported military radar contact.
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Yep. And there are any number of reasons that would be the case. Politically, Malaysia has very good reason to not want this to be an extremist incident.

Henning said:
:rofl::rofl:<sniff>:rofl::rofl: Malaysia isn't as bad as it gets either.
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Yep.
 
wsuffa said:
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The report this AM was the supposed military tracking showed the plane at FL295. If that's true, then there would be quite a bit of range.



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Yep.
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I was just going off the officials report that had a link on post 314...

"This is also supported with police reports made by some east coast residents, who claimed that they have seen huge lights and a plane flying at some 1,000 metres above sea level off Kota Baru."
 
DavidWhite said:
those girls are scary. would not poke.
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Those are some big ass lips!! I guess be almost 50, I'm out of the fashion loop a bit, but huge lips just don't do much for me! Now the huge, equally enhanced other parts are fine. :D
 
N801BH said:
I was just going off the officials report that had a link on post 314...

"This is also supported with police reports made by some east coast residents, who claimed that they have seen huge lights and a plane flying at some 1,000 metres above sea level off Kota Baru."
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Hence bolstering the case that the information coming out is confused.
 
Henning said:
Oh no, don't be confused, the entirety of indochina including Indonesia went through the industrial revolution as mineral rich European colonies. You need to talk mom into letting you go to SE Asia with me...
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Bring penicillin, David. Oh, and take lots of pictures. SE Asia with Henning? Ok, double up on the penicillin. ;)
 
N801BH said:
I was just going off the officials report that had a link on post 314...

"This is also supported with police reports made by some east coast residents, who claimed that they have seen huge lights and a plane flying at some 1,000 metres above sea level off Kota Baru."
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Makes sense if you are considering the "Steal it and hide it" scenario. They would want to cross Malaysia at a low altitude to minimize radar signature, then crossing the west coast climb back to altitude to minimize fuel burn. The military radar track stopped in the middle of the Malaccan Strait at FL295 according to the early reports on that thread, that would be consistent with a climb to altitude leaving the west coast of Malaysia. I'd be curious to see what Indonesian military radar tracks show, they should have picked it up just about the time Malaysia lost it. I'll bet those are being carefully reviewed now.
 
Hey! Quit screwing up our good conspiracy thread with your bad porn! If you're gonna do it, get some GOOD porn! :D
 
The Malaysian air force just pulled the oldest trick in the book. Right when they need a good distraction...

"Hey Look over there!!"

"Just kidding... made you look"


KUALA LUMPUR, March 11 (Reuters) - Malaysia's air force chief denied a media report that the military last tracked a missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner over the Strait of Malacca, far from where it last made contact with civilian air traffic control when it disappeared four days ago.

"I wish to state that I did not make any such statements," air force chief Rodzali Daud said in a statement on Wednesday.
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dell30rb said:
The Malaysian air force just pulled the oldest trick in the book. Right when they need a good distraction...

"Hey Look over there!!"

"Just kidding... made you look"
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atleast they didn't whack us on the nose. That's how that trick went when I was in school.
 
Fearless Tower said:
So now we are apparently back to having ZERO clue. I think I am understanding now why other countries like China are accusing Malaysia of incompetence in handling the search/investigation.
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Apparently so ...

Fearless Tower said:
That's it......too many passengers were trying to access the Obamacare website and it caused a complete sudden vaporization of the whole airplane.
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Don't mention that over on the Purpleboard ... don't ask me how I know:goofy:
 
Perhaps wild, but I have a gut feeling the planes is in Iran. Two young Iranians with forged passports; coincidence?
 
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