First Passenger As A Private Pilot (Or Lack Thereof)

Meanee said:
Girl pilots is a myth! Same as "Girls on Internet" They simply do not exist! :-D

I've yet to see a female GA pilot. There were few regional airline female pilots that I remember from my airline flights. But so far, the only indication that girls do fly is an occasional woman on CTAF (shared between few fields).
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When I first started flight training - in gliders - my CFI-G was a woman. But she was a veterinarian in her day job and did the training (on weekends) because she wanted to. (This is her: http://www.kpflight.com/rena1.htm)

When I rebooted my training (I had to put aside completing the glider training for a couple years) I switched to airplanes and used Gleim material to self-study and get a computerized sign-off for the written, but went to http://www.takewinginc.com/ to actually take it. There I met this woman:


I did not take my flight lessons from her primarily because I had already met a person associated with http://www.abouttimeaviation.com/ who I had told I would try first. I have no doubt I would have been just as satisfied with Dorothy Schick as my CFI.

All this is a long-winded way of saying that if you haven't seen any women pilots, perhaps you should double-check the effectiveness of your deodorant. :D
 
Meanee: Girl pilots is a myth! A myth! MYTH!

Kimberly: Yeth?


:)
 
DaleB said:
Meanee: Girl pilots is a myth! A myth! MYTH!

Kimberly: Yeth?


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Well, I do believe at one point there was some discussion here if Kimberly is actually real? I am fairly new here, but if I recall, it was mentioned few times, before she got her license. :D
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
I rarely see them at my airport. I can only think of one time I've seen a girl climb in the left seat without a CFI in the right seat and I've never seen one solo except in Ukiah - in a tail dragger! That was a pretty cool thing.

I do hear them on the CTAF sometimes but in terms of actually SEEING THEM - nope.
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There aren't that many of us, are there? Still I've met quite a few over the last 10 years.

- My DPE for my private checkride was a woman.

- I met quite a few women pilots through B&A - including Moxie, OneShort, the woman whose Cardinal I flew for a couple of years (callsign Maverick), and a CFII who graduated at least one fairly frequent poster here.

- I've met Liz (JoeSelch) and a couple of other women pilots at 57D.

- Until last year there were two of us in the flying club I belong to. Then she bought a Cirrus and sold her membership to her husband, who was then a student pilot.

There are a few others based at VLL that I run into once in a while, but I rarely see them on the taxiway or in the pattern, that's true.
 
The female pilots outnumbered the male pilots at dinner tonight. :)
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
Thanks but unfortunately I can't afford this. Most of my flights are so short (less than an hour each way) that the dogs could have been driven in a car for the same distance.

I may look into this to be a "helper" (co pilot) though.

Kimberly
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You might be able to participate if you can find a fellow pilot (that you're willing to fly with) to share the cost and PIC time. That would at least double the potential distance you could afford.
 
Meanee said:
Girl pilots is a myth! Same as "Girls on Internet" They simply do not exist! :-D

I've yet to see a female GA pilot. There were few regional airline female pilots that I remember from my airline flights. But so far, the only indication that girls do fly is an occasional woman on CTAF (shared between few fields).
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I know several female pilots in my area. One owns and flies a Christen Eagle that she and her now deceased husband built (they actually built a pair but she sold one of them). Another has a Cirrus and a Husky. The daughter of a good friend flies for a regional airline and two of my mechanics have daughters that fly. My own mother got her PPL in 1941 but she's no longer around.
 
azure said:
There aren't that many of us, are there? Still I've met quite a few over the last 10 years.

- My DPE for my private checkride was a woman.
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So was mine. We also have some lady pilots in our club. And Judy Parrish (on this board) certainly is one, and I've met her.
 
gismo said:
I know several female pilots in my area. One owns and flies a Christen Eagle that she and her now deceased husband built (they actually built a pair but she sold one of them). Another has a Cirrus and a Husky. The daughter of a good friend flies for a regional airline and two of my mechanics have daughters that fly. My own mother got her PPL in 1941 but she's no longer around.
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Is the one with the Husky single?
 
Single male pilot age 60 looking for female pilot with airplane. Please send picture of airplane.
 
LearDriver said:
Is the one with the Husky single?
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Nope, and her husband is a friend of mine so no deal there. Last time I checked one of the mechanic's daughters and another female CFI I forgot to mention were single.
 
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I got my grandmother to go with me, now shes hooked. I gave it to her as a gift for her 90th bday, a trip to Atlantic City (she can't resist)! Now all she asks me when I see her is "when are we going??" and I know what she means.
 
I also have had the opposite experience from the OP. I have at least half-dozen people that I still 'owe' a ride to, on top of the dozen or so I've already taken up. Only thing really stopping me is money, even paying a prorata share gets expensive. :p

Many are coworkers that are just interested in the prospect of GA and know nothing about it. Being able to answer almost any question they have with some degree of confidence helps...more willing to trust you if you exhibit knowledge or give the impression that you are exhibiting knowledge. :D
 
3 in the green said:
I also have had the opposite experience from the OP. I have at least half-dozen people that I still 'owe' a ride to, on top of the dozen or so I've already taken up. Only thing really stopping me is money, even paying a prorata share gets expensive. :p

Many are coworkers that are just interested in the prospect of GA and know nothing about it. Being able to answer almost any question they have with some degree of confidence helps...more willing to trust you if you exhibit knowledge or give the impression that you are exhibiting knowledge. :D
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Glad to see you giving rides to interested people... That is about the only way we can perpetuate our addiction to aviation..:yesnod::yesnod::) I bet at least 80 % of your friends will want to continue to the next step and take some flying lessons. Good for you for spreading the fever.:yesnod::yesnod::yesnod::idea:

Ben.
 
I have a bunch of people lined up to take a ride after I am done with my training. Question is, how many will still be up for it, when their turn to fly comes.
 
3 in the green said:
I also have had the opposite experience from the OP. I have at least half-dozen people that I still 'owe' a ride to, on top of the dozen or so I've already taken up. Only thing really stopping me is money, even paying a prorata share gets expensive. :p

Many are coworkers that are just interested in the prospect of GA and know nothing about it. Being able to answer almost any question they have with some degree of confidence helps...more willing to trust you if you exhibit knowledge or give the impression that you are exhibiting knowledge. :D
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This reminds me. My coworker tends to come to my office and ask about bad GA stuff like that girl who got her face cut off by that prop. I tell this person every time that the media makes GA look bad. She asked if it was "legal" to have a prop running. I said "would you walk into a spinning blade?!" They just make non pilots "feel" for the victim and then turn people off to flying / scare people. This makes me so mad.
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
This reminds me. My coworker tends to come to my office and ask about bad GA stuff like that girl who got her face cut off by that prop. I tell this person every time that the media makes GA look bad. She asked if it was "legal" to have a prop running. I said "would you walk into a spinning blade?!" They just make non pilots "feel" for the victim and then turn people off to flying / scare people. This makes me so mad.
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I went to get my haircut today.. first thing they asked me once we got to talking about flying. :banghead:

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Meanee said:
I have a bunch of people lined up to take a ride after I am done with my training. Question is, how many will still be up for it, when their turn to fly comes.
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Mine turned to zero but others came around! To date, I have not ONCE been alone. I plan to go alone as soon as they fix the runway lights (one day after work) to accomplish two things:

1. Night currency for passengers

2. Safety (haven't flown in a while and am taking my uncle up for Christmas)
 
My kids keep wanting to go so I haven't taken anyone else yet!
 
One thing that might help put non-pilots at ease is to answer their question about how long you have been flying (it always comes up) with years rather than hours. Even if you respond with 1000 hours it doesn't seem like much to them but 10 years makes you sound like a 747 captain in their eyes. Then when they do fly with you limit your maneuvering attitudes and save the stalls and steep turns for solo practice and flying with fellow pilots.
 
DrMack said:
One thing that might help put non-pilots at ease is to answer their question about how long you have been flying (it always comes up) with years rather than hours. Even if you respond with 1000 hours it doesn't seem like much to them but 10 years makes you sound like a 747 captain in their eyes. Then when they do fly with you limit your maneuvering attitudes and save the stalls and steep turns for solo practice and flying with fellow pilots.
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Yay I am safe! My first 13 hours were done in 2003. And I resumed training in 2011. So, when I do get my ticket (2012), I can say "I've been flying for 9 years!" :D
 
DrMack said:
One thing that might help put non-pilots at ease is to answer their question about how long you have been flying (it always comes up) with years rather than hours. Even if you respond with 1000 hours it doesn't seem like much to them but 10 years makes you sound like a 747 captain in their eyes.
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So very true...
Non-pilots are more impressed with the fact that I've been flying since 1986 and fellow pilots just want to know the hours.
I would be more concerned with currency over total hours or years.
 
He thought I was sleeping, but I overheard my uncle on the phone with his girlfriend two nights ago. We were supposed to fly the day after Christmas, one of his very first flights in a small plane. He was telling her about our flying and I guess she was worried. I heard him say I had FIVE HUNDRED HOURS to her. I was thinking, wow, that's just to make her feel better..... or does he think I have 500 hours?! No matter, we got there yesterday and made a no go decision. I showed him the planes, the pilots, etc. and we drove home. I called the AWOS and sure enough within a few hours the airport was socked in. We made the right choice.
 
Meanee said:
I have a bunch of people lined up to take a ride after I am done with my training. Question is, how many will still be up for it, when their turn to fly comes.
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Yeah.... me too. Though most people have already said they'll only go if one of my parents is in the plane with me.[they're both pilots] sigh....

My [now] ex-boyfriend, the supportive guy he was, told me he would never get in a plane with me since he had been in a car with me. I told him they are two very different things!! I do not fly like I drive! He didn't even believe me when I first solo'd... ugh.
 
Meliss said:
Yeah.... me too. Though most people have already said they'll only go if one of my parents is in the plane with me.[they're both pilots] sigh....

My [now] ex-boyfriend, the supportive guy he was, told me he would never get in a plane with me since he had been in a car with me. I told him they are two very different things!! I do not fly like I drive! He didn't even believe me when I first solo'd... ugh.
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Another California pilot! Do you ever visit the SF area?

Kimberly
 
Yeah, and a fellow female pilot around my age! Awesome. We have a property in Alturas so we fly there quite often. My parents more than I. [It's north of you, but still] Most of the time though I stay down south, I train out of John Wayne in Orange County.
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
He thought I was sleeping, but I overheard my uncle on the phone with his girlfriend two nights ago. We were supposed to fly the day after Christmas, one of his very first flights in a small plane. He was telling her about our flying and I guess she was worried. I heard him say I had FIVE HUNDRED HOURS to her. I was thinking, wow, that's just to make her feel better..... or does he think I have 500 hours?! No matter, we got there yesterday and made a no go decision. I showed him the planes, the pilots, etc. and we drove home. I called the AWOS and sure enough within a few hours the airport was socked in. We made the right choice.
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Of everyone who has been my passenger, Nobody has ever asked how many hours I had, except for any new CFI that needed to know.

On a side note, I was beginning to wonder if POA had chased you away, or if something else happened to you. I was also beginning to wonder if you were REAL! Something has changed because you had an average of over 13 posts per day for a long time, and then dropped off the radar to under one per day in the last month. I hope all is fine!
 
Meliss said:
Yeah, and a fellow female pilot around my age! Awesome. We have a property in Alturas so we fly there quite often. My parents more than I. [It's north of you, but still] Most of the time though I stay down south, I train out of John Wayne in Orange County.
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Where are you training there?
 
skidoo said:
Of everyone who has been my passenger, Nobody has ever asked how many hours I had, except for any new CFI that needed to know.

On a side note, I was beginning to wonder if POA had chased you away, or if something else happened to you. I was also beginning to wonder if you were REAL! Something has changed because you had an average of over 13 posts per day for a long time, and then dropped off the radar to under one per day in the last month. I hope all is fine!
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Thanks for the concern; the reason I stopped posting is a combination of many things. In addition, if I'm not flying much or at all, I feel like I cannot contribute anything valuable to POA which may or may not be the case.

Anyhow, I can't possibly keep up with my post rates of the past but I hope to stay around more than I have been lately.

Kimberly
 
Meliss said:
Yeah, and a fellow female pilot around my age! Awesome. We have a property in Alturas so we fly there quite often. My parents more than I. [It's north of you, but still] Most of the time though I stay down south, I train out of John Wayne in Orange County.
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I have no idea where that is, but like I do with ALL other POA members, I open an invite to you - when you are in town - to go flying with me in my tiny rental plane over the Golden Gate Bridge. It truly is a breathtaking flight and it would be fun to have a female pilot with me!

Do you have female pilot friends at your airport? Or are you a member of the 99s?

I'd be open to talking on the phone or emailing offline if you want to send me a private message etc...... We need more California pilots on here, nice to "meet" you!
 
zaitcev said:
In my opinion, it was not necessary. I did pass the checkride like that. However, when I transitioned to Arrow, I started making much flatter approaches than I did back then.

We discussed it cordially on the ground and he said that he was sure that I was not going to flare in time. It was a refueling stop at COS when we flew together to FTG, I few up leg, he flew down leg. At FTG, I did a similar approach and I'm pretty sure he tensed up, but refrained from action. The landing was fine. On the way back, I watched how he flies, and he always dragged it in with power.

Also, Jesse, you're a CFI, and that's different. You probably saw it all in students before, had to deal with different flying habits in them. I suppose if you have to grab controls, that's a sign that an unsafe situation is actually developing.
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In my book the steeper (but stabilized) approach is the better approach for a single just as long as it's not so steep that you're unstabilized and too fast (in which case you kick the rudder one way, drop the other wing and push :wink2:). Depending on the engine to get you to the runway on short final is poor technique for a normal landing in a single (alot of twins like flatter power on approaches). I bet the guy that grabbed your controls is one of those guys who flies B-52 patterns in a 150.
 
Anyone else have anything to say about this? I'm taking my checkride this saturday.
 
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