Whether you are really liable or not you will get sued.AdamZ said:Ugh that is HORRIBLE! It make me wonder on a related note what kind of liablility the organizers of Fly Ins have for "controlling" ( I use that term loosley) traffic. I mean I have the Wings Fly B Q, Ed has the 6Y9 fly in and Dianna has Gastons. And of course many of us have set up Breakfast series across the country.
I don't really forsee any problem if I just say hey we are meeting at KXYZ for lunch. Who ever flies there flies there but beyond that who knows I guess the more organized it is such as OSH and S-n-F the more the organizers gotta take precautions. I suppose however that this specific accident could have happened anywhere at any time.
mikea said:Whether you are really liable or not you will get sued.
EAA was successfully sued by Doctor Doctor for letting him plow his Corsair into the plane ahead of him.
http://www.aero-news.net/SpecialContent.cfm?ContentBlockID=dedd940b-8f12-4ea7-8306-2a5ca23f40fa&cat=7
In this case EAA got 50% of the blame because of the actions of the air boss.
Let's hope that nobody would blame Diana. Gastons doesn't have an air boss. BUT we should keep in mind that nobody should be giving instructions of any kind to planes.
AdamZ said:Fact of the matter is I really don't know what happened here Did the Avenger just taxi forward with abandon? Did someone from OSH give directions for the Avenger to move up was there a ground boss who cleared him who knows but it sucks for all involved. I bet the Avenger pilot is devestated as well.
Frank Browne said:I would definitely want to do the Oshkosh fly-in with someone who has done it a few times before I would consider doing it myself.
But we were giving taxi instructions to pilots that wanted to participate in the contests. I suppose if there had been an incident with one of the taxiing airplanes that a jury could have found the person who gave the instructions partially liable.AdamZ said:Ugh that is HORRIBLE! It make me wonder on a related note what kind of liablility the organizers of Fly Ins have for "controlling" ( I use that term loosley) traffic. I mean I have the Wings Fly B Q, Ed has the 6Y9 fly in and Dianna has Gastons. And of course many of us have set up Breakfast series across the country.
I don't really forsee any problem if I just say hey we are meeting at KXYZ for lunch. Who ever flies there flies there but beyond that who knows I guess the more organized it is such as OSH and S-n-F the more the organizers gotta take precautions. I suppose however that this specific accident could have happened anywhere at any time.
grattonja said:From the looks of the tail of the RV, I'd say they had a couple of seconds of inkling about what was happening.
AdamZ said:Actually EAA got 25% liability and at Gastons there is some one on the Freq, giving advisorys and directing traffic.
Fact of the matter is I really don't know what happened here Did the Avenger just taxi forward with abandon? Did someone from OSH give directions for the Avenger to move up was there a ground boss who cleared him who knows but it sucks for all involved. I bet the Avenger pilot is devestated as well.
AdamZ said:Actually EAA got 25% liability and at Gastons there is some one on the Freq, giving advisorys and directing traffic.
Fact of the matter is I really don't know what happened here Did the Avenger just taxi forward with abandon? Did someone from OSH give directions for the Avenger to move up was there a ground boss who cleared him who knows but it sucks for all involved. I bet the Avenger pilot is devestated as well.
NTSB report said:The pilot of a Lancair airplane reported that he followed the Avenger while taxiing on Papa taxiway
and he observed the Avenger taxi into the RV-6. The Lancair pilot reported that his airplane was
parked in the homebuilt aircraft parking area near the Lancair airplane exhibit area located just
south of the P-1 taxiway. He reported that about six aircraft marshallers helped push his Lancair
into a position near the Papa taxiway so that he could start his engine. He started his engine and
was ready to taxi onto the Papa taxiway. One of the aircraft marshallers motioned to him that he
was cleared to taxi onto Papa taxiway, since there was adequate separation from the next airplane.
Instead, the Lancair pilot waited because the Avenger was approaching and he did not want to be in
front of the Avenger while taxiing. After the Avenger passed, the Lancair pilot taxied onto Papa
taxiway. He followed the Avenger at a distance so that he could remain clear of the Avenger's
propeller blast.
flyingcheesehead said:I bet that Lancair pilot is thanking his lucky stars... Or at least thanking his experience, knowledge, and judgement. Wow.
I also didn't realize that the RV that got hit was a side-by-side model. That pilot is VERY lucky to be alive!