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Well the dawgs are getting some negative publicity around here for this ignorant, narrowminded action by some poorly educated students. Of course, being a WSU Cougar I typically don't have anything nice to say about the uw, but this just furthers my negative opinions about them.
 
Wow, what a bunch of idiots. Complete morons who obviously know nothing about history. If you know ANYTHING about the Japanese in WWII, you know they were extraordinarily cruel people. My grandfather was a POW of the Japanese for 3.5yrs...he was in the Philipines on December 7th, and was captured in April when Bataan fell. I've read a lot of books on the subject, and heard a lot of his stories, and it is unreal how they treated people. They would kill an innocent person as if they were stepping on a cockroach. And these stupid, ignorant students come up with crap like this about the heros who saved the world from the Japanese & Germans? I wish they could go back in time & spend six hours in a prison camp in the Philipines...that would change their world view forever.
 
If thats the way they want to treat a recepiant of the congressional medal of honor.....

I currently attend a college and a lot of the general attitudes by some college aged young adults and peers honestly sickens me. There are many students who are so spoiled and have such a slanted view on the world.
 
Interesting editorial - aviation related too ;)


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Get Thee Behind Me, Pappy Boyington

Sat, 18 Feb '06
Univ of Washington Student Senate Slams "Evil" War Hero

Aero-News Opinion By Kevin R.C. "Hognose" O'Brien


Student senator Jill Edwards spoke for the student body when she "questioned whether it was appropriate to honor a person who killed other people." She "didn’t’ believe a member of the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce."
Ashley Miller agrees. "Too many monuments commemorate white men," she sneered. They should probably tear some down until pygmies, eskimos and victims of gender dysphoria have caught up in the heroism department, then. It might take a while (The white guy, by the way, wasn't all white -- he was part Native American, Sioux specifically. But maybe joining the "evil" Marines bleached the red out of him?)
Jon Lee said he "didn’t want to see a campus inundated with memorials." Hey, they already have a memorial to someone with University values -- the Lincoln Brigade, a group of American Communists who fought in the Spanish Civil War. The survivors used to march in New York City in solidarity with Hitler, and then against him, oddly enough changing direction on June 22, 1941. That's University of Washington values for you.
The occasion: a meeting of the University of Washington student senate, in which Andrew Everett committed the moral equivalent of Danish cartooning, by proposing that the school erect a small statue to Marine Lt. Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, UW '34, who with 28 victories remains the Marine Corps' all-time ace. Boyington grew up in hard circumstances, and long before there was the sort of lavish student aid that makes college an extension of childhood for today's students, put himself through the University and went on to become one of the school's most distinguished alumni.
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So Everett and a small group of students and faculty thought it would be a great idea to honor him, and to give today's students a reminder of a hero of days gone by.
As the reaction of Edwards (below right), Miller, and Lee show, it went over like an offer of a golden calf to a synagogue, or a statue of Satan in the Vatican, or, well, a Marine on a modern college campus.

Some students sought compromise. Deirdre Lockman said "the resolution focused more heavily on the negative aspects of war, and should instead focus on more positive aspects, such as the awarding of the Medal of Honor." Yeah, you know, like all guys who won the MOH for acts of genteel kindness, like Audie Murphy, or Bob Howard. (Look 'em up. You in the UW shirt, put down that bong).
Mikhail Smirnoff apparently thought he was seeking middle ground when he "understood the sentiment of not wanting to reward those who fought in the war," but he pointed out that "those who fought in WWII were heros [sic]..." unlike, he helpfully added, those who fight in Iraq. To quote someone with the same last name as young Mikhail, "What a country!"
Defending his decision to diss Boyington, Director of Student Senate Operations Karl D. Smith thought he was going for middle ground, commenting in a regional blog, "We also are home to civil rights leaders such as Gordon Hirabayshi and a major contributor in the eradication of smallpox William Foege, and the Nigerian statesman who worked for peace Alex Ekwueme." Yep, household names all, just like Boyington. I was just wondering today, what's Al Ekwueme up to these days? You hardly hear his name any more. By the way, I am not the Great Punctuator, but I'm willing to send Karl some commas. You know, to bring his writing up to the junior-high-school standard expected at UW.
Smith issued the plaintive call of today's university dweller, confused, intimidated, and relativistic: "How do we decide who is and is not deserving?"
Well, Karl, it looks like you just did, despite your girly-man waffling. Did you say that he was evil for shooting down enemy airplanes?
"I stand by my comments in support of removing the language regarding the Japanese planes shot down." (Geez, the kid talks like a bureaucrat already. He'll be making everyone's life miserable in the DMV some day). "In war, killing is a necessary evil. Because of this I am all the more grateful for those who endure the effects of war.
But I do not believe our honor of him should focus upon the evil, regardless of how necessary."
Yeah... make a resolution about Gramps Boyington, just don't mention that he was a Marine, and skip the bit about 28 planes he shot down.

It might offend airplane-Americans. ("He's really famous for something, but we can't tell you what, because this is a university, and we have to keep a lid on the information"). If this is the courage that they inculcate at UW, Boyington must have had all of his already, on the day he got there.
Or just maybe the campus has changed in seventy-two years.
The University of Washington student senate is a strange organization, with many seats reserved for particular races, ethnicities, and extracurricular activities. The seat that Jill Edwards represents belongs to -- I am not making this up -- the Honors Croquet League, which appears to be the pinnacle of the deep- thinking Miss Edwards's accomplishments at UW. (A personal page notes that she posed in a swimsuit for a calendar of UW women -- I won't comment but every male who reads this and sees her picture will make a snap judgment on what the dating scene is like at UW. Swimsuit, croquet, knowledge of history half as deep as a bird bath: she's the complete package, men).
Boyington died in 1988 and is buried in Arlington -- which is the national cemetery in Washington, DC, where we bury people that most in the nation think are heroes -- which detail we spell out for any of those suffering from a Washington (University of) education.
 
Fast n' Furious said:
Normally, I don't get too wound up about this sort of stuff. This however....really p*sses me off.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48808

My apologies to those who are offended by the word "p*ssed". I auditioned some similar words but none made it past the cyber-censor.
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Yeah, ****ed, doesn't even begin to describe my feelings.
 
Maybe it is all workign out for the better
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Aero-Views Follow-Up: UW Foundation Offers Boyington Memorial Scholarship

Tue, 21 Feb '06
It's Not Quite Crying "Uncle!"... It's Not A Statue... Maybe It's Better?

Aero-News wasn't the only outlet to give the University of Washington hell for the unbelievable-but-true tale of the members of the Student Senate who thought that "Marines are not what we should be producing." Not by any means. The blogosphere and talk radio are also in full cry, and the University is in full defensive crouch.
An AP report quoted one unidentified blogger as saying, "How dare these snot nose, hemp-wearing, pot smoking, drum beating, dreadlock wearing, 'gee when is the financial aid check going to arrive,' brat kids diss Pappy Boyington?" (If anybody knows what blog that is, drop Hognose a line. He wants to read the rest of it).
Another student claimed to have been offered a beating by a Marine. (If you're a collector of beatings, kid, our advice is to take it. It will probably be a thrashing to remember). In all seriousness, though, these kids need a clue, not a clobbering... but if you haven't got a clue by college age, you will probably be living with Mom and Dad and still trying to find yourself at 35. We have no idea how to give a clue to people like that.
But there's one very positive bit of reaction. The UW Foundation, which among other things steers UW-related generosity to deserving recipients, has set up a Lt. Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington Memorial Scholarship Fund.
"This fund will provide scholarships to undergraduate students who are either a U.S Marine Corps veteran or are the child of a U.S Marine Corps veteran," Renee Fricke, Director of the Annual Giving Programs at the University of Washington Foundation, emailed to columnist Michelle Malkin, another writer outraged by the Student Senate's bizarre reasoning and results.
Maybe the answer is to flood the place with Marine vets and offspring -- and a flush scholarship fund would help with that. It would sure help the Marine vets who are there now on what is clearly a hostile campus. (Still, Marines did Belleau Wood, Tarawa, Hue City and Fallujah. The contempt of the student senate is unlikely to faze them, as "hostile" goes).
A cynic might say it's an attempt to cash in during a time when the university is getting more than its usual share of publicity (they say there's no such thing as bad publicity... this would be proof of that). But maybe money in this fund will do some good -- make your own decisions.
Boyington, whose famous self-assessment was, "Show me a hero and I'll prove he's a bum," might actually like the idea of a scholarship a lot better than the statue. He might have been uncomfortable with the idea of a statue of himself.
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If it's a "real" Boyington scholarship, winners should have to maintain a 3.0 GPA in Aeronautics or Aeronautical Engineering (his majors) and commit one alcohol-related act of gross insubordination per semester. Somehow we don't think that requirement will see light of day, but he'd definitely have laughed at that.
We'd also like to point out one factual error in Hognose's opinion piece. A reader pointed out that he quoted Ashley Miller as sneering that there were memorials enough to "white males," and actually she said "rich white males." Boyington was even less rich than he (part Indian) was white, but we've learned better than to expect common sense from the denizens of the UW student senate. But if we're going to quote fools, we ought to quote them completely.
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Finally, thanks for all the mail on the subject, most of it running pretty strongly pro-Pappy. (Not all; and we note that we'll always welcome a decently-written opinion piece from our readers, even, or especially, in response to an op-ed or Aero-Views of our own).
There's a lot of Marines out there, we're learning. And oo-rah back at ya.
http://www.uwfoundation.org/ They currently have the Boyington Memorial Scholarship linked on the front page. Here is the direct link to make a gift to the scholarship, in case you read this some time in the future and their home page has changed.
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IMHO this will be creating a better living history testimonial to Maj. Boyington.
 
SteveR said:
My grandfather was a POW of the Japanese for 3.5yrs...he was in the Philipines on December 7th, and was captured in April when Bataan fell.
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I can only say God bless your grandfather for his sacrifice. My father joined the Marines in March '42 at 16 years of age. Spent his 17th birthday on Guadalcanal. He was one of the early victims of malaria before atabrine was in good supply. Recouped in Australia and then New Zealand before returning home. That turned out to be the only campaign he fought in but he was an eye witness to the Battle of Savo Island.
 
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."
-- Edmund Burke

Liberal academica run amok, while disallowing opposing comment, is beginning to reap the fruits of their labor. I'm afraid our country will not be better for this social reeducation experiment.
 
"The University of Washington student senate is a strange organization, with many seats reserved for particular races, ethnicities, and extracurricular activities. The seat that Jill Edwards represents belongs to -- I am not making this up -- the Honors Croquet League.":hairraise:

:rofl::vomit:

This should have been in the Bible as one of the signs of the apocalypse. I am going to sit under my desk for awhile, suck my thumb, and pray for salvation. :drink:


James Dean
 
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