When you got that nugget of information wrong

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  1. WDD

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    You're a student absorbing everything you can, reading and listening to all the YouTube and what not you can.

    You have some great questions for your instructor that just puzzles the heck out of them, and puts a smile on their face.

    When I was reading about VOR, for some reason I assumed you referred to it not as "V" "O" "R", but as a word "Vor". or "Vortac". I got a very polite "What?" from the CFI.

    When simulating an engine out, I referred to it once as "dead stick". Which is a term used by some friends who are senior citizen pilots. Which I guess isn't used any more, as I got a polite "What?" from the CFI.

    Now, I have refrained from "tally ho" and "no joy" when referring to looking for other aircraft.

    Then I was reading about a student (this one's not me) who was convinced the airplane's wheels were powered by the engine. Shouldn't it have a reverse for going backward?

    Anyone else?
     
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    As a private student I used the term RNAV to refer to a VOR based area navigation system and confused my CFI.
     
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    That’s funny. I thought I was the only one. When I started instructing, I had a younger guy come to me who had already passed the written. Ok, thats fine. A few lessons in and I mention something about the Nav radios and that we’ll get to those soon. He said, “That’s for the VOARS, right”? Huh? He said it a couple more times before it finally clicked for me. Had a good internal chuckle at that.

    Not a big deal, but I saw more incorrect preconceived knowledge from people that “learn” everything before they interact with a CFI.



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  4. James331

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    Sounds like you have a rather inexperienced CFI.

    Who doesn’t know “dead stick”

    The reset of the stuff is also pretty common lingo


    I had a pre solo student, who was logging some computer time at home I guess, ask me about lean of peak ops
    Like dude, first let’s do landing on the centerline ops, then we’ll move on from there lol
     
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  5. WDD

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    She was very good. It must be an under or over 35 years old thing
     
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    Nah, think it’s a hours thing, and where you mostly fly, I’ve heard most of that on the radio and dead stick is not only common with pilots, as well as RC pilots it’s also in a good bit of media.


    Oh yeah, and pics of instructor???
     
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    Actually, saying VOR as "vor" would make sense....as an acronym as opposed to an intitialism that's read letter for letter (e.g., respectively, NAFTA & USMCA; regardless of how you feel about trade agreements, much easier to say NAFTA).

    I'd hate to have to pronounce each letter of NASA, for instance. And while on the subject, I vote to change "NASA astronaut" to simply Nastronaut. :D
     
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    Do not forget RADAR...

    :)
     
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    You need to fly with some older instructors. It's amazing what these young whipper snappers don't know.
     
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    It is kind of funny thinking about that - how many acronyms we pronounce as a word, versus how many we enunciate the individual letters ... i wonder what drives that?

    RADAR, TACAN, SONAR, NASA ... vs DME, IFF, CFI, FAA ...
     
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    On the left two syllables vs 5 or 4. On the right only 3 syllables. Also, on the right, the “word” would be only one or two syllables, which doesn’t allow for sufficient combinations. You’d have a lot of them that sound the same as other words. “Iff”? If what?
     
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    Saying PIH-tot instead of PEE-toh.
     
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    That would be the French pronunciation .......
     
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    So is it "I" "A" "C" "R" "A", or "i ACK rah" ?
     
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    You know, women have been flying for a few years now. They also have the vote, and foot binding isn't a thing anymore.
     
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    This supports my observation. The word is 3 syllables, the letters are 5. The word isn't awkward or conflicting with 100 other things. Makes sense to make a word out of it.
     
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    :D
     
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    Wait, what??! When did this happen?
     
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    I usually refer to either a VOR or a VORTAC as a " V-O-R," but on the rare occasion that I feel a need to be more specific, I pronounce the latter as a word, i.e., "vortac."

    That's especially amusing in light of the number of people who think that an airplane can't take off from a treadmill that's moving in the opposite direction!

    Blog post about treadmill threads

    By the way, I once saw a TV commercial that showed a student pilot practicing backing up in an Archer. :rofl:
     
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    In the Cherokee I still say out loud when I’m raising each notch of flaps while setting up for landing. The Johnson bar raises, but the flaps drop and if I’ve got a different CFI next to me than normal I sometimes get the, “you mean, lowering flaps-right” yes, but I’m physically lifting a bar. Also sounds weird on a short field takeoff during climb out to say I’m lowering the flaps. You guessed it, flaps are going up.... one day I’ll get it right.
     
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    A suggestion... Try thinking of the handle as a see-saw with your hand on one end and the flaps on the other. One end goes down, the other goes up...?

    :)
     
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    And yet, somehow, that doesn’t seem to have affected good, old fashioned lechery.
     
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    If I had a nickel for every time I heard “that’s what my instructor told me” after somebody tried to crash a jet, I’d have a couple of bucks.
     
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