AdamZ
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What do you think of Mark Felt ( Deep Throat)?
AdamZ said:What do you think of Mark Felt ( Deep Throat)?
judypilot said:What Joe said. Besides, he was a graduate of the University of Idaho (where I work). Must be a good guy!
Judy
As an outsider looking in I always thought that Nixon was fairly typical of the 'Right' of that time. Self serving, dishonest, a liar, fraud, cheat and bought by big business.Joe Williams said:I've been seeing some folks that I assume are pretty far on the right ragging on him. I don't think they are doing themselves any favors. There just aren't a whole lot of folks who remember Richard Nixon very fondly, and considering the damage he did to us, folks on the right should really despise him.
Stephen, making statements like this without some facts to back it up only marks you as a troll.Bonanza said:As an outsider looking in I always thought that Nixon was fairly typical of the 'Right' of that time. Self serving, dishonest, a liar, fraud, cheat and bought by big business.
But then what do I know???
Stephen.
Bonanza said:As an outsider looking in I always thought that Nixon was fairly typical of the 'Right' of that time. Self serving, dishonest, a liar, fraud, cheat and bought by big business.
But then what do I know???
Stephen.
RogerT said:I'm glad Felt had the courage to do what he did. Loyalty only
goes so far.
Thank you for your kind remark.Brian Austin said:Stephen, making statements like this without some facts to back it up only marks you as a troll.
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AdamZ said:What do you think of Mark Felt ( Deep Throat)?
Bonanza said:Thank you for your kind remark.
Whilst my use of words may have been somewhat intemperate, for which I apologise, my point I believe is valid.
As we saw this whole matter unfold in the world's press, not having the advantage of being physically present in the US at the time, it appeared that right up until his demise, Nixon commanded massive support and even after his resignation there were many, many apologists on the right of the party. Of course, nowadays everyone looks back on the era and memories are substantially rewritten, but at the time and I emphasise, as it seemed to the world outside of the US, it was not just Nixon but a totally corrupt party, government and supporters.
I make absolutely no inference about the 'Right' of today and my intention was not to insult or impune anyone who may or may not have been a Nixon supporter at the time, simply to focus on the way that many memories and indeed history may have been re written. It is very easy to villify one man but he could not have done what he did without the support of his party, his government or the voters.
Now perhaps I will revert to my standard position and stay out of US politics
Stephen.
Joe, you know the answer to this. It is the winners who rewrite history. Orwell took it to extremes in 1984 (the book, not the year), but the premise is perfectly valid. A snitch becomes a whistleblower, a rebel becomes a freedom fighter, a thief becomes a champion of the poor. It's a matter of point of view, and point of view is colored by context, and context is created by schools, media and community.Joe Williams said:The question that I now have is, who exactly is it that is trying to rewrite history?
silver-eagle said:It depends on what side of the fence you were on. I wonder what Nixon would say. At the time, I am sure there were a lot of people working for Nixon who thought Deep Throat was a traitor.
Me, I thank the man for having the courage of to his convictions. Right or wrong, he exposed a corrupt system and lived with a secret for many years.
Dave Krall CFII said:On the TV news footage of him with his walker and big smile, it was said he came out with the statement becuase it would help pay his grand-kid's college tuition -there's his morality !
Joe Williams said:He's reportedly suffering from dementia, and it was his family who pushed him to come forward. I think that if he'd done it for money, he would have come forward when it would have done him some good. I've been suffering a sneaking suspicion that he's being used by his family, a suspicion reinforced by Bob Woodward refusing to pay for the story and letting himself be scooped on the story he's sat on for 30 years. Woodward is on record as saying he isn't sure Felt was competent to make the the decision to come forward.
Joe Williams said:I've been seeing some folks that I assume are pretty far on the right ragging on him. I don't think they are doing themselves any favors. There just aren't a whole lot of folks who remember Richard Nixon very fondly, and considering the damage he did to us, folks on the right should really despise him.
NC19143 said:And Here I thought Deep Throat was Linda Lovelace.
Henning said:Richard Nixon's over all political career achievement scale still falls strongly in the positive catagory. If it hadn't been for what Nixon and Kissinger started with China and the USSR, the wall would not have fallen as early as it had if even yet, and Wall Mart and a large part of our consumer lives would not exist as we know it. As to his constitutional abuses, why worry about them now, most of those abuses as they were back then, he'd have authority to do now under the Patriot Act, and we were at war then as well.
IMO R.M. Nixons biggest career mistake was as VP for Eisenhower (and Eisenhower was a fool for refusing to meet Castro) in the dissmissive way he dealt with Castro in 1959. Yes Castro wasn't following protocol and he was a cocky arrogant guerilla, but he's 90 miles off our shores and he is in power down there. It would have turned out cheaper and better if they just humored him and bought his co-operation. He should have realized that if we rejected Castro, Kruezchev would jump at the opening to get an ally and base of operations on this hemisphere. The repurcussions of that April day in 1959 are still felt today.