TSA CFI PIlot registration
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Low Level Flyer
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Hopefully a temporary issue. I created an account a couple months ago on a MacBook. No issues then.
Low Level Flyer
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I just tried to log into my account. It prompted me for a new password. It updated successfully. Good luck Dr. Bruce!
midwestpa24
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I got setup not long after it was launched, but yes just another idiotic bureaucratic mandate. I'm not an actively working instructor anymore, but may do the occasionally FR or checkout with a friend. I don't market my services, I'm not taking on new students, and definitely not working with foreign students, why do I need this TSA madness?
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I haven't even tried,
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Well, I finally decided to see what the big deal was about. There’s 2 minutes of wasted time.
ateamer
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I understand why it was imposed, but let’s get real. It was a devastating incident, but it involved an extremely low percentage of foreign students. And it basically puts the CFI in the position of being responsible for a duty under the Department of Homeland Security. Perhaps a better way would be that prospective foreign students go through DHS for vetting, and CFIs can easily access the database to verify approval.
RyanShort1
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Not only that, but anything a CFI is required to "see" can be forged (how many variations of a birth certificate have I seen???), and we don't exactly have the tools to stop anything meaningful, nor does it screen CFI's to see if some rogue CFI with sympathies against the state might do whatever anyway. The whole thing is a joke of security theater.
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I remember when it all started, the owner of one of the flight schools I was associated with pointed out the silliness of CFIs deciding whether a passport or birth certificate was real or fake.
The current rash of new signups was apparently prompted by a supposedly new amendment that supposedly clarified that every CFI needs to have an account. I can't find a new amendment. As far as I can tell, the most recent amendment to the regs in this area took care of the horror of using the word "gender" instead of "sex."
There is something buried in the regs that may mean an independent CFI needs an account. 49 C.F.R. §1552.9 requires every flight training provider to designate a security coordinator. At the same time, that designation is stated to be required "at the corporate level," making even that unclear.
If everyone is the intent, wouldn't be simpler to use all that collective brainpower to ... ohhh, I dunno ...
§ 1552.17 FTSP Portal.
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(b) Flight training providers who provide flight training to candidates must obtain an FTSP Portal account and use the FTSP Portal to notify TSA of all candidate flight training events and confirm that a candidate is eligible for flight training. The flight training provider also may use the FTSP Portal for other recordkeeping purposes related to the requirements in § 1552.15.