AdamZ
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I did not think so. That looked too much like a factual documentary to me.Hilarious!
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Coming back from Canada is such a PIA currently that later this year when I have a meeting in Vancouver I am flying to Seattle and renting a car to drive back and forth across the boarder
Coming back from Canada is such a PIA currently that later this year when I have a meeting in Vancouver I am flying to Seattle and renting a car to drive back and forth across the boarder
Wow Its that bad? Man I had no idea.
Was you December trip pre or post Nigerian bomber?I had a trip to Toronto last December. From the experience I had, it wasn't quite that bad, in fact clearing customs was worse. I get to go back to Toronto sometime in the next few weeks so we'll see how that goes.
Was you December trip pre or post Nigerian bomber?
So did I.
I thought this was serious until I got to the part about complimentary prostate and pap smear exams.
It sure looks that way.Pre - December 3rd. So, you're sayin I'm in for a real treat, eh?
This is a very surprising development, since Canada seems to have had much more reasonable "security-theater" requirements than the U.S. Crossing into Canada - 1 minute and pleasant border inspection guy. Going to the U.S. - 10 minutes and some absolute idiots....
Too bad that seems to have changed!
Nobody was Canada bashing at all. We were complaining about onerous security requirement and the US DHS has forced Canada's hand on this. See Bill's note.OK guys, stop the Canada bashing!
Um no they are not.Not every Arab is a terrorrist but every terrorrist has been an Arab.
Peace
This is a very surprising development, since Canada seems to have had much more reasonable "security-theater" requirements than the U.S. Crossing into Canada - 1 minute and pleasant border inspection guy. Going to the U.S. - 10 minutes and some absolute idiots....
Too bad that seems to have changed!
I cross the border both ways every month or so, sometimes more but in a GA airplane. I've never dealt with the Canadian version of the TSA but I have dealt with Canada customs. We always need to give advance notice on the phone and we clear customs on the phone a majority of the times which usually makes it very easy although they ask a lot of questions at times. Oddly they will ask more about the Canadian citizens than the US citizens. When we do get met by an inspector they, on a whole, seem much more inquisitive than in the US, especially about the business people are conducting in Canada. The often want to know who the people work for and what they will be doing in Canada, in some detail. Also if someone on the airplane has had even a minor brush with the law they will ask about that. US customs seems more concerned with what you might be bringing in that might be a threat whether it be explosives, drugs or food. You are not allowed to open the door until the inspector gets there which was fun when it was hot in airplanes without an APU. Nowadays they walk around the airplane with a Geiger counter checking for radiation. Depending on the place they will take all the luggage out and go through some of it. The procedures can be very different depending on the location and the inspector. Clearing in Denver is pretty easy but there are some places which are more of a headache.Returning home, I invariably wanted to reach across and strangle the guy. Stuff like "Who do you work for? Why were you in the US? How long were you there?" ad infinitum. I wanted to pick my passport up, point to the "Canada" on it and say "What business is it of yours who I work for? I'm a Canadian Citizen returning to Canada." But being a polite Canadian, I simply answered the annoying questions and went on my way.
That makes perfect sense. It seemed out of character for Canada to overreact in this way....As I understand it, Canada is hamstrung.
The *US* insists on the additional searches, but only requires them of persons traveling from (or citizens of) certain countries plus a random selection of others.
Canada's constitution prohibits discriminatory treatment based on national origin. Therefore, Canada must search everyone, or just a random selection of everyone. Ergo, we have searches of everyone. And since facilities and screeners are limited, Canada chooses to severely restrict carry-ons.
I'm sure I will be corrected if my analysis is wrong.
FYI here is what Canada was doing last week on flights to the US from Calagary.
TC is stating no carry on. EXCEPT purses for women and a laptop bag for all.
By laptop bag it cannot be a backpack or any bag with a shoulder strap. It may be a small laptop bag and you can bring support materials for the laptop on it.
You will be hand searched and patted down. That is 100%, no exceptions.
I agree. What I wrote came straight from one of the Calgary Standards Mafia that attends standards meetings. Unfortunately they have no choice.Until that changes I will not be flying through Canada for vacation. If they think I'm checking my camera bag, they can think again. And I'll just take the shoulder strap off my computer bag.
These idiots will be the end of air travel yet.