Three US F-15Es Lost Over Kuwait, Friendly Fire, All Survived, 3/1/26

FlightmechH3 said:
The chatter is that the Kuwaiti F18 pilot was a member of the royal family
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If that's true, the chance it was incompetence goes up. If it was incompetence, the pilot should be made to wear a Ronald McDonald outfit at the next joint forces dinner. :lol: :biggrin: :lol:
 
Ed Haywood said:
There are over 1,000 members of the Kuwaiti royal family.
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Yeah it’s like what @Warlock was saying about the Saudis. There’s a crapload of them and they’re generally the worst pilots. I had a royal Saudi “stick buddy” and the guy fell asleep up front! My IP chewed his ***.
 
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Three US F-15E fighter jets were shot down over Kuwait on March 1st by Kuwaiti air defense systems.
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Well, sorry to be critical of another expert work, but he knows **** about **** for 8 paras before making some wild ass guesses as to "why?". And, he doesnt even mention a possible disaffected or rogue actor who is alligned with anti-US states or an independent angry muslim with his hand on the button. Woof, dont bother.
 
Velocity173 said:
Yeah it’s like what @Warlock was saying about the Saudis. There’s a crapload of them and they’re generally the worst pilots. I had a royal Saudi “stick buddy” and the guy fell asleep up front! My IP chewed his ***.
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We had a Kuwaiti royal family member in my Infantry Officer Advanced Course back in 92. He was probably the most worthless person I have ever known. Basically refused to do any work other than sit there.

But kind of hilarious to watch entitlement and unlimited money in action. He bought a new Cadillac when he arrived and abandoned it 6 months later when he left. Wore a gold and diamond rolex to PT. And the strippers on Victory Blvd did great.
 
Ed Haywood said:
We had a Kuwaiti royal family member in my Infantry Officer Advanced Course back in 92. He was probably the most worthless person I have ever known. Basically refused to do any work other than sit there.

But kind of hilarious to watch entitlement and unlimited money in action. He bought a new Cadillac when he arrived and abandoned it 6 months later when he left. Wore a gold and diamond rolex to PT. And the strippers on Victory Blvd did great.
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Man it’s amazing how similar they are even in different combat arms. He sounds like my stick buddy. Bought an Escalade only he planned on shipping it back. They have a complete lack of caring or work ethic. None of them have an intense bone in their body. You shake their hand and get the dead fish. They all want to date American girls to…can’t say I blame them in that regard though. ;)
 
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2-Bit Speed said:
If that's true, the chance it was incompetence goes up. If it was incompetence, the pilot should be made to wear a Ronald McDonald outfit at the next joint forces dinner. :lol: :biggrin: :lol:
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My son is just wrapping up his stint as an AF IP. Told me they're generally sh***y pilots...
 
Ed Haywood said:
Video footage of UAE Apaches shooting down Shahed drones

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As an aside, Emirati Air did have the best food and hottest flight attendants in the Gulf.
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An interesting thing. They are all firing from high oblique and matching speed, not dead 6 or high six and overtaking like a fixed wing fighter. I assume that is to avoid the debris cloud if the warhead detonates, and is possible because the gun is swivel mounted instead of aligned to the aircraft axis.

As Shaheds get faster, helicopters won't be able to intercept. Wonder if a purpose-built fixed wing aircraft might be in order, to augment drone interceptors.
 
Ed Haywood said:
An interesting thing. They are all firing from high oblique and matching speed, not dead 6 or high six and overtaking like a fixed wing fighter. I assume that is to avoid the debris cloud if the warhead detonates, and is possible because the gun is swivel mounted instead of aligned to the aircraft axis.

As Shaheds get faster, helicopters won't be able to intercept. Wonder if a purpose-built fixed wing aircraft might be in order, to augment drone interceptors.
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Bolton Paul built one...
 
Ed Haywood said:
An interesting thing. They are all firing from high oblique and matching speed, not dead 6 or high six and overtaking like a fixed wing fighter. I assume that is to avoid the debris cloud if the warhead detonates, and is possible because the gun is swivel mounted instead of aligned to the aircraft axis.

As Shaheds get faster, helicopters won't be able to intercept. Wonder if a purpose-built fixed wing aircraft might be in order, to augment drone interceptors.
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I seem to remember reading that the RAF used Hawker Tempests, among other things, to shoot down V1's. It would be more than a little cool to see a 350+ kt piston fighter in combat again. That might not sound practical, but I'd argue it's more practical than the cost of some of the AA missiles being used now.
 
Albany Tom said:
I seem to remember reading that the RAF used Hawker Tempests, among other things, to shoot down V1's. It would be more than a little cool to see a 350+ kt piston fighter in combat again. That might not sound practical, but I'd argue it's more practical than the cost of some of the AA missiles being used now.
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A10, hell. Bring back the P-51D, amiright?
 
Albany Tom said:
I seem to remember reading that the RAF used Hawker Tempests, among other things, to shoot down V1's. It would be more than a little cool to see a 350+ kt piston fighter in combat again. That might not sound practical, but I'd argue it's more practical than the cost of some of the AA missiles being used now.
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More than a few V1s were brought down because the pursuing RAF pilot flew alongside it and nudged a wing. The ensuing roll exceeded the correction capabilities of the rudimentary targeting autopilot and made the V1 crash
 
kyleb said:
Or you program 'em to zigzag like ships trying to avoid sub attack.
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a challenge to do with a swarm, yes?

and then the targeting software will use predictive algorithms to account for the zigzag.

and then ...
 
3393RP said:
More than a few V1s were brought down because the pursuing RAF pilot flew alongside it and nudged a wing. The ensuing roll exceeded the correction capabilities of the rudimentary targeting autopilot and made the V1 crash
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Had to Google this to understand why they did it this way instead of just shooting them down. Got varying answers, but the most plausible was that this was usually a last ditch effort after expending their ammo with no effect. There was also some discussion that this was safer than flying through the debris cloud of a 1000kg bomb.
 
Ed Haywood said:
Had to Google this to understand why they did it this way instead of just shooting them down. Got varying answers, but the most plausible was that this was usually a last ditch effort after expending their ammo with no effect. There was also some discussion that this was safer than flying through the debris cloud of a 1000kg bomb.
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It was probably also more fun.
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Half Fast said:
It was probably also more fun.
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Another tidbit ... "nudge" is apparently a misnomer. The actual technique did not involve contact. The fighter pilot would put his wingtip below the V1 wing and use the disturbed air to upset it.
 
DaleB said:
Bring back the P-51D, amiright?
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Presenting the Piper PA-48 Enforcer.

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Ed Haywood said:
Another tidbit ... "nudge" is apparently a misnomer. The actual technique did not involve contact. The fighter pilot would put his wingtip below the V1 wing and use the disturbed air to upset it.
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Sometimes. But I've got books with contemporary pictures of dented wingtips purported to be from the bump over technique. Probably all of the above.
 
jsstevens said:
Sometimes. But I've got books with contemporary pictures of dented wingtips purported to be from the bump over technique. Probably all of the above.
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I can easily imagine that when the wingtip is under the V1 wing to disturb the air, the disturbed air will have an effect, and the occasional bump is probably going to occur, whether intended or not.
 
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