The FAA confirms there’s a contingency system in place

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After 2023 outage that paused flights nationwide, FAA now has backup system...

JULY 16, 2024


Back in January of last year, contractors working with the Federal Aviation Administration accidentally deleted files while trying to update a database, inadvertently disrupting the Notice to Air Missions system that the agency uses to communicate important flight information to pilots. The outage forced the FAA to issue a nationwide ground stop and pause thousands of flights — one of the largest disruptions to air traffic since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

But the agency has now confirmed that there’s a backup system in place and that systems involved in sending NOTAMs have been updated.

“The FAA developed a contingency system which is used to issue Notice to Air Missions (NOTAMS) to pilots if the primary system is experiencing an outage,” the agency said in a statement to FedScoop. “Equipment and systems dealing with NOTAMs have been updated and a NOTAM Task Force has been created to improve policies and processes. These are still in place and have been communicated to staff.”

The agency addressed the issue within hours of the initial outage in 2023 and flights resumed soon afterward. Still, the malfunction catalyzed bipartisan interest in improving the country’s NOTAM system, which are used to communicate important issues to pilots, like warnings about weather and closed-off airspace…
 
After 2023 outage that paused flights nationwide, FAA now has backup system...

JULY 16, 2024


“Still, the malfunction catalyzed bipartisan interest in improving the country’s NOTAM system, which are used to communicate important issues to pilots, like warnings about weather and closed-off airspace…as well as thousands of pieces of useless information totally unrelated to actual planned AirMission
 
Improved? I still can't figure out half the abbreviations and a runway closure buried among things like a tower height being amended by 3 feet.
 
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Well, since the heavy lifting of redefining what NOTAM means is done, they are focusing on more mundane things, like getting the system to work.
 
Improved? I still can't figure out half the abbreviations and a runway closure buried among things like a tower height being amended by 3 feet.
Don’t forget about the thousands of burned out lights that are never replaced.
 
The new system is wonderful - bringing us information like this:

!FDC 3/4402 8D4 PART 1 OF 3 ODP PAUL C MILLER/SPARTA, SPARTA, MI.TAKEOFF MINIMUMS AND (OBSTACLE) DEPARTURE PROCEDURES AMDT 2...TAKE-OFF MINIMUMS RWY 25, 300-1 1/4 OR STANDARD WITH MINIMUM CLIMBOF 215 FEET PER NM TO 1000.IN ADDITION TO TAKEOFF OBSTACLE NOTES: ADD: RWY 7: TRAVERSE WAY 16FT FROM DER, 495 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, 755 FT MSL. TREE, TRAVERSEWAY, BUILDING BEGINNING 129 FT FROM DER, 393 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE,UP TO 25 FT AGL/762 FT MSL. TRANSMISSION LINE, POLE, TREE BEGINNING302 FT FROM DER, 295 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 24 FT AGL/764 FTMSL. TREE 331 FT FROM DER, 519 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 759 FT MSL.BUILDING 471 FT FROM DER, 436 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 773 FT MSL.TREE, BUILDING BEGINNING 541 FT FROM DER, 222 FT RIGHT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 58 FT AGL/798 FT MSL. POLE, TREE BEGINNING 729 FTFROM DER, 339 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 37 FT AGL/768 FT MSL.TREES BEGINNING 1900 FT FROM DER, 4 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO829 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 2367 FT FROM DER, 105 FT LEFT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 108 FT AGL/832 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 2414 FTFROM DER, 5 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 107 FT AGL/835 FT MSL.TREES BEGINNING 2467 FT FROM DER, 1 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO108 FT AGL/836 FT MSL. TREE, TRANSMISSION LINE, POLE BEGINNING 2852FT FROM DER, 33 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 130 FT AGL/853 FT MSL.ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 2306011736-2506011736ESTEND PART 1 OF 3!FDC 3/4402 8D4 PART 2 OF 3 ODP PAUL C MILLER/SPARTA, SPARTA, MI.TREES BEGINNING 3657 FT FROM DER, 1015 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UPTO 116 FT AGL/844 FT MSL. ADD: RWY 25: UTILITY BUILDING 39 FT FROMDER, 112 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 8 FT AGL/775 FT MSL. UTILITYBUILDING 39 FT FROM DER, 112 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, 6 FT AGL/775 FTMSL. TERRAIN 74 FT FROM DER, 463 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, 787 FT MSL.TREES BEGINNING 671 FT FROM DER, 351 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO62 FT AGL/832 FT MSL. TREE, POLE BEGINNING 866 FT FROM DER, 249 FTRIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 836 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1014 FT FROMDER, 88 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 838 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING1289 FT FROM DER, 50 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 81 FT AGL/851 FTMSL. TREES BEGINNING 1515 FT FROM DER, 212 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE,UP TO 840 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1529 FT FROM DER, 28 FT LEFT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 858 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1563 FT FROM DER, 426FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 866 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1646 FTFROM DER, 173 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 96 FT AGL/868 FT MSL.TREE 1729 FT FROM DER, 819 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 103 FT AGL/875FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1869 FT FROM DER, 42 FT RIGHT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 105 FT AGL/881 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 2644 FTFROM DER, 87 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 860 FT MSL. TREESBEGINNING 2932 FT FROM DER, 61 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 105 FTALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 2306011736-2506011736ESTEND PART 2 OF 3!FDC 3/4402 8D4 PART 3 OF 3 ODP PAUL C MILLER/SPARTA, SPARTA, MI.AGL/869 FT MSL. TREE 3621 FT FROM DER, 120 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE,100 FT AGL/871 FT MSL. TREE 1.3 NM FROM DER, 1694 FT RIGHT OFCENTERLINE, 73 FT AGL/979 FT MSL.ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 2306011736-2506011736ESTEND PART 3 OF 3

Intuitively obvious to all !
 
Ah. 2024 technology bringing you 8 bit single case nomenclature and syntax from the 1980's as written in techo bureaucrat.
 
I don't see mention of how pilots seek out the backup system.
Go to brief, get nothing... now what?
 
Just so you know, I live about 6 miles NW of KRNO and my porch light is out. It’s about 8’ AGL. Also there is a bird standing on my roof. Try not to hit it. Do you think I should request a NOTAM be filed?
 
Just so you know, I live about 6 miles NW of KRNO and my porch light is out. It’s about 8’ AGL. Also there is a bird standing on my roof. Try not to hit it. Do you think I should request a NOTAM be filed?

CAUTION DRSTNMD PRCH LT INOP BRD HZRD
 
The new system is wonderful - bringing us information like this:

!FDC 3/4402 8D4 PART 1 OF 3 ODP PAUL C MILLER/SPARTA, SPARTA, MI.TAKEOFF MINIMUMS AND (OBSTACLE) DEPARTURE PROCEDURES AMDT 2...TAKE-OFF MINIMUMS RWY 25, 300-1 1/4 OR STANDARD WITH MINIMUM CLIMBOF 215 FEET PER NM TO 1000.IN ADDITION TO TAKEOFF OBSTACLE NOTES: ADD: RWY 7: TRAVERSE WAY 16FT FROM DER, 495 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, 755 FT MSL. TREE, TRAVERSEWAY, BUILDING BEGINNING 129 FT FROM DER, 393 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE,UP TO 25 FT AGL/762 FT MSL. TRANSMISSION LINE, POLE, TREE BEGINNING302 FT FROM DER, 295 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 24 FT AGL/764 FTMSL. TREE 331 FT FROM DER, 519 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 759 FT MSL.BUILDING 471 FT FROM DER, 436 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 773 FT MSL.TREE, BUILDING BEGINNING 541 FT FROM DER, 222 FT RIGHT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 58 FT AGL/798 FT MSL. POLE, TREE BEGINNING 729 FTFROM DER, 339 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 37 FT AGL/768 FT MSL.TREES BEGINNING 1900 FT FROM DER, 4 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO829 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 2367 FT FROM DER, 105 FT LEFT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 108 FT AGL/832 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 2414 FTFROM DER, 5 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 107 FT AGL/835 FT MSL.TREES BEGINNING 2467 FT FROM DER, 1 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO108 FT AGL/836 FT MSL. TREE, TRANSMISSION LINE, POLE BEGINNING 2852FT FROM DER, 33 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 130 FT AGL/853 FT MSL.ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 2306011736-2506011736ESTEND PART 1 OF 3!FDC 3/4402 8D4 PART 2 OF 3 ODP PAUL C MILLER/SPARTA, SPARTA, MI.TREES BEGINNING 3657 FT FROM DER, 1015 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UPTO 116 FT AGL/844 FT MSL. ADD: RWY 25: UTILITY BUILDING 39 FT FROMDER, 112 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 8 FT AGL/775 FT MSL. UTILITYBUILDING 39 FT FROM DER, 112 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, 6 FT AGL/775 FTMSL. TERRAIN 74 FT FROM DER, 463 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, 787 FT MSL.TREES BEGINNING 671 FT FROM DER, 351 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO62 FT AGL/832 FT MSL. TREE, POLE BEGINNING 866 FT FROM DER, 249 FTRIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 836 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1014 FT FROMDER, 88 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 838 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING1289 FT FROM DER, 50 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 81 FT AGL/851 FTMSL. TREES BEGINNING 1515 FT FROM DER, 212 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE,UP TO 840 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1529 FT FROM DER, 28 FT LEFT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 858 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1563 FT FROM DER, 426FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 866 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1646 FTFROM DER, 173 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 96 FT AGL/868 FT MSL.TREE 1729 FT FROM DER, 819 FT RIGHT OF CENTERLINE, 103 FT AGL/875FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 1869 FT FROM DER, 42 FT RIGHT OFCENTERLINE, UP TO 105 FT AGL/881 FT MSL. TREES BEGINNING 2644 FTFROM DER, 87 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 860 FT MSL. TREESBEGINNING 2932 FT FROM DER, 61 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE, UP TO 105 FTALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 2306011736-2506011736ESTEND PART 2 OF 3!FDC 3/4402 8D4 PART 3 OF 3 ODP PAUL C MILLER/SPARTA, SPARTA, MI.AGL/869 FT MSL. TREE 3621 FT FROM DER, 120 FT LEFT OF CENTERLINE,100 FT AGL/871 FT MSL. TREE 1.3 NM FROM DER, 1694 FT RIGHT OFCENTERLINE, 73 FT AGL/979 FT MSL.ALL OTHER DATA REMAINS AS PUBLISHED. 2306011736-2506011736ESTEND PART 3 OF 3

Intuitively obvious to all !


What did they do, NOTAM an entire forest?!
 
Anyone know what "Tril" is supposed to mean?
 
We need to train the NOTAM creators how to speak “Power Point”

Take a few minutes to think about what you want to say. Use full words. Organize the most important to the top, then out the rest is some organized categories. Use punctuations.

It’s called basic communications. It just takes leadership and the will to make it happen.
 
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