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Eh - just part of owing a plane.
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Eh - just part of owing a plane.
I wonder whose engine maintenance budget would be higher between a Seneca, Turbo 310, or a Duke... it's got to be close to a tie.Loading…
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Holy crap there's a thumbs down button now!I wonder whose engine maintenance budget would be higher between a Seneca, Turbo 310, or a Duke... it's got to be close to a tie.
Seneca has 8 cylinders to care for. The others have 12...I wonder whose engine maintenance budget would be higher between a Seneca, Turbo 310, or a Duke... it's got to be close to a tie.
lolHoly crap there's a thumbs down button now!
Seneca has 12 - they are Conti TSIO-360 (which are 6 cyl), and similar amount of turbos.Seneca has 8 cylinders to care for. The others have 12...
Can I thumbs down myself?Seneca has 12 - they are Conti TSIO-360 (which are 6 cyl), and similar amount of turbos.
No. I got you...Can I thumbs down myself?
Sure about that? Look at the initial price. Cirri are not inexpensive to purchase and that difference will pay for a lot of maintenance and fuel.Cost of a FIKI Turbo Cirrus got to be less than all the engine expenses of a twin.
Seneca tbo 2000hrsSeneca has 12 - they are Conti TSIO-360 (which are 6 cyl), and similar amount of turbos.
Not sure at all. Just enjoying suggesting ways for someone else to spend his money.Sure about that? Look at the initial price. Cirri are not inexpensive to purchase and that difference will pay for a lot of maintenance and fuel.
I guess it depends on how many hours you fly and how long you keep the plane.
I wouldn't mind that one... but also hangar size ((Just sayin':
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Oh, right. The primary constraint. Beech 18s are outside cats, right?I wouldn't mind that one... but also hangar size ((
Since I know their operating costs thanks to my boss, gonna have to pass.Cirrus jets are about the same wingspan as a Seneca.
Seneca has 8 cylinders to care for. The others have 12...
To be fair, seneca 1s are io-360s, and have a single engine service ceiling of something like 4000 ft. They're good trainers, but that's about it. 2+ are the baby continental turbo 6 cylinders. Still not my first choice of motor, but I've heard from a couple people that they hold up well if not abused.Seneca has 12 - they are Conti TSIO-360 (which are 6 cyl), and similar amount of turbos.
The 310R post you replied to isn’t a turbo. The turbo twin Cessnas have their own maintenance challenges on top of all the normal twin Cessna shenanigans. But I am curious how these planes all compare. I can say that the Seneca and 310 people I know all love their planes.I wonder whose engine maintenance budget would be higher between a Seneca, Turbo 310, or a Duke... it's got to be close to a tie.
Good advice... But even a pressurized turbine bird isn't immune to bumps at altitude, especially if you fly somewhere where there were thunderstorms in the previous day.Plane selection can help with motion sickness.
1. Look for planes with higher wing loading, like a Cirrus. Higher wing loading reduces how much the plane gets bumped around by wind/turbulence. Get one which climbs fast to get out of the bumps (SR22T), get A/C to keep cold air blowing on her face.
2. Go pressurized and get out of the bumps ASAP and stay high as long as possible, practice slam dunk approaches.
Earlier 310s aren't FIKI (the "full deice" package), but that's not to say that they're any less capable - It's merely a quirk of FAA certification.My understanding is 310s are inadvertant ice, not known ice. I want known ice.
I flew 9 hours today and spent 2 hours looking at the Seneca. I need time to procees.Well....it's Tuesday... Am I flying dad's Cherokee Six to Fabtech or can I bum a ride in a Seneca?
time to process.....the 8050-2?I flew 9 hours today and spent 2 hours looking at the Seneca. I need time to procees.
My first time to Atlanta - FTY in this case. Didn't get an approach out of it but the cloud cover made the place less hot. Then had to hop over to SC. Bumpy as all get out down low.I hope at least the flight was nice.
So the big hold up right now (besides my indecision) is that the Seneca in question is currently placarded that it isn't approved for known ice. I believe it is a mistake and have told them I am not moving forward until the placard is gone and it is legal FIKI. I believe it is a paperwork error. We are sorting it out.Well....it's Tuesday... Am I flying dad's Cherokee Six to Fabtech or can I bum a ride in a Seneca?
Its kinda nice adding a new airport to the list.My first time to Atlanta - FTY in this case. Didn't get an approach out of it but the cloud cover made the place less hot. Then had to hop over to SC. Bumpy as all get out down low.
Not that I will ever get one, but I would love to hear your reviews on both.Go fly a Cirrus then go fly a Columbia 400/TTX
You’ll end up with the Columbia
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Unless you're tall...Go fly a Cirrus then go fly a Columbia 400/TTX
You’ll end up with the Columbia
Ask me how I know
I feel the Columbia side stick is much much better than the Cirrus.Not that I will ever get one, but I would love to hear your reviews on both.
Got anything else in the hopper to look at?So the big hold up right now (besides my indecision) is that the Seneca in question is currently placarded that it isn't approved for known ice. I believe it is a mistake and have told them I am not moving forward until the placard is gone and it is legal FIKI. I believe it is a paperwork error. We are sorting it out.
Nope. But offer is in on the Seneca (with conditions).Got anything else in the hopper to look at?
Almost as bad as a PA-32, right? 8)Seneca might fit the mission but gosh do I hate the way they fly, like a junk dump truck.