grattonja said:
As that is a cut and paste, I don't think it is misquoted. You say "lawyers can become judges and legislate from the bench..." You didn't say some lawyers, you didn't say liberal lawyers, you didn't say a fringe group of lawyers with an agenda, etc.
Very observant of you. But Guess what, I don't have to say some or all just to please you who were the one who took my words OUT of context. It is my opinion that lawyers (plural use of the word there), legislate from the bench as judges. I have no requirement to say fringe, liberal, or otherwise. It is called an opinion....
Lawyers is a use of the word in a plural fashion, so therefore meets my use of it in the context that I enclosed it in.
You however, instead of asking for a clarification, jumped right into making an assumption that was ummm wrong, IMHO, and misapplied. maybe next time ask what I meant if you don't understand the context. It might save you a couple posts.
If you think for one moment that I am going to compartmentalize my words every time a lawyer reference comes up around here, you are sadly mistaken.
Lawyers are relevant in this thread because it is a legal case brought on by lawyers who are are prone to the left liberal position in this country. It was decided in lower courts by judges who are also lawyers.
And if that bothers you that you want to come in this thread and make assumptions out of context, hey feel free, that is your choice.
But don't expect me to label every single lawyer thread into little lawyer compartments to please you. That is not going to ever happen.
grattonja said:
Despite STILL being a bit cloth headed today, I think your quote is fairly clear, dragging "lawyers" the group into something where, on this board at least, two of them actually agree with you. Me being one of them. "Lawyers" vs. "personal injury lawyers" for example is a huge difference in context. Lots of lawyers don't care for the "ambulance chaser" advertising some PI lawyers use.
I don't give a rip how many lawyers are on here, or how many step up to brag about being one as if that makes their statements and opinions any different than mine or anyone elses.
Lawyers who become judges that legislate from the bench are a group, IMHO. So I will continue to use the word lawyers when I please as I please.
grattonja said:
You don't seem to like negative rep points. My suggestion here is that, if you really don't like to pick fights, choose your words more precisely. You have posted in this thread on an issue where, it seems, the group overall broadly agrees with you.
WRONG.... Another false assumption on your part, In my opinion. I said I thought they were funny. I NEVER said I don't seem to like negative rep points. You keep making assumptions without asking for context.
grattonja said:
You feel you have been treated differently in the group on this board because of your conservative leanings. I suggest to you, and the recent poll of political leanings on this board would seem to support it, that politics are not really the issue. I suggest that you often use phrases that seem like they are directed at broad groups of people, not perhaps the smaller groups that you feel are responsible for whatever conduct it is that you are indicting. Narrow your phraseology before you post, and see if that doesn't help to cut the negative rep points.
Nope, I never said I feel I have been treated differently in the group on this board because of my leanings or otherwise. Please point out where I said that. You are inccorrect yet again in your assumption. You must mean sopmeone else here. As to your suggestion about how I post. I'll take that under advisement.....
Ok done. No thanks, I'll keep posting how I desire to post. I appreciate the suggestion however.
grattonja said:
I raise all this here because: A. you responded to my post and suggested I reread yours, which I did. and B. because I think anon rep points and behind the scenes stuff is not fair, and I won't do it.
I asked you to read it again, because you took my post out of context and made assumtions that were incorrect, IMHO. You read into it what you thought I meant instead of asking what I meant. You assumed I meant all, wrote all, and that was incorrect as I never said all.
And I don't really care one way or the other about rep points. If someone wants to give me neg rep points, fine by me, but I also have a choice and I will post them in the thread because I think they are funny. I have not left any points, pos or neg since if I have something to say I will write in in the thread. I may in the future, though, who knows. But I have no problem with the feature as the owners desire to allow that, and that is their choice.
grattonja said:
I don't think you are actually trying to pick arguments with your word choices here. I just think you don't always see that you sometimes DO pick fights with your word choices. And if I thought you didn't care about it, I wouldn't post this reply. You seem like someone who wants to post on politics and have decent discussions, and your reaction to negative rep points would seem to suggest that you DO care when people react negatively.
I don't pick fights with my word choices, others take them out of context and spin them to their own agenda's, IMHO. And when they do that, I will correct them when I see it as I did here with you. When I screw up, I apologize and ask for context. I already did that in another thread here.
grattonja said:
And I'm not one of those attorneys that has a THING about lawyer jokes, or the profession either for that matter. Everyone knows you can tell the difference between a roadkill and a lawyer... there are always skid marks in front of the roadkill...
Well, you are the one who wants me to know you are an attorney, IMHO, as you keep bringing it up. I really don't care what you choose to do in your personal life. If you're happy being a lawyer good for you.
I till feel this is a good ruling sending a message to judges, and lawyers who bring these cases to court, that legislating from the bench will get you reversed, IMHO.
Anyway, thanks for the response, and have a nice Wednesday.
Regards,
Joe
PS - Lawyer Joke....
Q - "How do you know there is a lawyer in the room?"
A - "They Tell You"
Can also be applied to Doctors, people that went to Notre Dame, (domers), and others with big ego's...