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Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by SixPapaCharlie, Dec 2, 2017.
Welcome to airplane ownership Bryan
Are you longing for the red carpet and two bottles of water days?
He's still got the carpet, but one of the bottles seems to be leaking.
Bryan, this could be episode one of your new video series..."This Old Plane".
I wish I had a leaky fuel tank instead of...eh, never mind...
Bryan....sounds like you found the ....."Extend-O-Range" feature of the Grumman.
I hear flex tape can be purchased in white, too, so it will match Bryan's wing!
EDIT: See @Dan Thomas 's post #74 below
FWIW, I had a wet wing plane, C177 Cardinal. One wing leaked, but only when I topped it off. Putting no more than about 26 gallons, 30 gal tank, into that one stopped the leaking. Maybe you might be lucky enough to solve it that easy. But you gotta figure it's a matter of time before things start getting leaky elsewhere. I did a lot of shopping around and research on AA5's. What I found is it is not authorized to go into those wings. Not that it hasn't been done illegally. Fletchair however has a DER I think it's called that allows them to do it and they are the only ones who do. Sorry to hear about your 'surprise.' I feel your pain.
cause they like their wings wet
The one in N California hasn’t the cred in the Mooney community that the others seem to enjoy, at least from what I’ve seen. Me, I like the bladders quite a bit. They truly are a permanent fix. All I can say is in a Mooney if your tanks leak now they will again, unless you spend the big bucks. Most of the Mooneys I saw when I was looking to purchase smelled strongly of fuel.
Until you gotta work on one, specifically a Turbo 210 with an engine compartment so crammed full of stuff you can't fit a box of Chiclets into it.
If u always fly in a zero gravity configuration the fuel will never leak.
Bob Hoover proved your theory eman.
Plenty of airplanes with bladders that have leaked. Ask most any experienced Comanche owner.
That implies you are always going to trust them and let them make decisions for you. I'd think a little more about that.
Seriously? How did you come to that absurd conclusion?
“Hinge pins” too, apparently...
Do I have to solve everything? Just flip ‘er inverted at 100 AGL, fly to your destination, then roll upright on short final! The leaky tank bottom is now the top-problem solved!
At least you're finding the same problem over and over again. I keep finding new problems and getting them fixed is new $$$.
Yeah but his life expectancy of that wing is gonna shrink if that dude doesn't find a fix soon!
Actually no - a proper barrel roll is 1G maneuver.
Positive G, but not 1G.
Hey Bryan, have you considered taking that Traveler to Fletch Air? They are the Grumman gurus. If you know about them and don't take a Grumman there well then you might have to question your intelligence
Texted him last night "I'm flying at 8 AM tomorrow. Any concerns?"
MX: Nope, I will have it in your hangar for you at 8 AM
Me: Goes to the hangar this morning. No plane. Go to MX
MX: The leak is fixed but now it is leaking badly out of the inspection panel
Me: $#@!! %$$$#& #$#$$!!! #*#&#!! You don't know what you are doing and you are incapable of fixing this #$@*@#$%## We're done!
On Mooney’s, if the bladders leak or have any other trouble they can be refurbished in situ for about 1 AMU.
You didn't! If ya did good on ya!
Probably around 8.5 gph in the air, maybe 1/2 that on the ground.
Geez dude... just paint your plane SR-71 black and tell everybody on the ramp it's a baby Blackbird, and will seal up once you're at Mach 3 and 70K elevation.
Might need light blue now...
I have to go with this for the win.
Bryan, Bryan, Bryan...
Drain that tank. Take the plane to Fletchair. I'll give you a ride back. I'll even demonstrate slips with full flaps. They are a hoot. Your life will become much better.
Leaking fuel cells tend to fill the wing with fuel vapors. This is what can happen:
Scroll down a few articles.
He's got a point.
Don't turn on the strobes.
I never did give thought to vapors. Whappin myself upside the head
Fill the tanks, take a cutting torch and cut inspection panels in the top of the wings. Fix it yourself. All your problems would have been solved by now..
Bryan, reminds me of an oil change (before I started doing my own) when the line guy hooks the tow bar up with one side in the axle tube and the other side on the nose gear valve stem. Only made it around once when all that expensive air fell out.