Rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated (my airplane is now a go-to image for crash articles)

Katamarino

Katamarino

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When I set off around the world an Associated Press photographer turned up and got some shots of the departure. I guess he's put these photos onto some kind of journalist photo database because I'm finding that I'm now crashing and dying a lot in locations across the US, Greece, and even Kazakhstan.

I didn't take the photo so there's nothing I can do about it. It's a bit odd though.









 
As long as two guys in suits don't show up on your doorstep asking why you were in Kazakhstan, I think you're good. :)
 
When my Arrow bit the dust with a FAA employee and his daughter…the names were withheld because of his employer and the circumstances around it, for a week. Local TV ( Houston) news and print both published my name and address with a picture of the aircraft. Most of my friends assumed I was dead along with my daughter who also is a pilot. I received flowers to my office with condolences to my employees. It was a mess and took a while to clear up.
 
Warlock said:
When my Arrow bit the dust with a FAA employee and his daughter…the names were withheld because of his employer and the circumstances around it, for a week. Local TV ( Houston) news and print both published my name and address with a picture of the aircraft. Most of my friends assumed I was dead along with my daughter who also is a pilot. I received flowers to my office with condolences to my employees. It was a mess and took a while to clear up.
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#journalisming. That truly was a mess and your story is why I won't be letting anyone else fly or enter into a club/partnership/leaseback.
 
I've got a friend with a Seabee and there's a great shot of him over a glassy lake (with his reflection in it). It shows up all over the place. I didn't take that one (but some of my other pictures of him have gotten spread around too).
 
Ever wonder why the insurance on your N number has been increasing? ;)

You sure do get around ... you might be setting a record for number of crashes also ...
 
"they hate me cuz they ain't me" has always worked for me when it comes to staving off insurance hikes. :D
 
Warlock said:
When my Arrow bit the dust with a FAA employee and his daughter…the names were withheld because of his employer and the circumstances around it, for a week. Local TV ( Houston) news and print both published my name and address with a picture of the aircraft. Most of my friends assumed I was dead along with my daughter who also is a pilot. I received flowers to my office with condolences to my employees. It was a mess and took a while to clear up.
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Look on the bright side. Now you know who your real friends are.
 
Y’know, you might make it into the record books for having crashed the same plane on multiple continents.....

(Of course, that Wright Brothers Award is probably off the table.)
 
Warlock said:
When my Arrow bit the dust with a FAA employee and his daughter…the names were withheld because of his employer and the circumstances around it, for a week. Local TV ( Houston) news and print both published my name and address with a picture of the aircraft. Most of my friends assumed I was dead along with my daughter who also is a pilot. I received flowers to my office with condolences to my employees. It was a mess and took a while to clear up.
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So, when you walked up to folks that thought you were dead, did you tell them you got better.??
 
I sent out a blanket text and email…but yes I had a couple of double take encounters…if it were not for the circumstances of the time some really would be funny today.
 
Please tell us who your A&P is so we can get the miraculous repair work done on our planes as well
 
texasclouds said:
You are getting royalties right?
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I'd bet if you sent them a cease & desist letter with demand for royalties, they would quickly scrub that image from their database as not worth the trouble to fight over.
 
DJTorrente said:
I'd bet if you sent them a cease & desist letter with demand for royalties, they would quickly scrub that image from their database as not worth the trouble to fight over.
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I bet they would chuckle, hit delete and read the next email in their inbox.
 
I would run some serious debt, then tell the creditors you're dead... what the hay, you got proof.


DJTorrente said:
I'd bet if you sent them a cease & desist letter with demand for royalties, they would quickly scrub that image from their database as not worth the trouble to fight over.
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When you post photos on social media platforms or image sharing sites, you agree to their terms of service. Most major platforms state that you retain copyright ownership of your photos, but grant the site a license to use and distribute them, hence no royalty check.
https://photocopyrightlaw.com/are-photos-posted-online-in-the-public-domain/
 
Ventucky Red said:
When you post photos on social media platforms or image sharing sites, you agree to their terms of service. Most major platforms state that you retain copyright ownership of your photos, but grant the site a license to use and distribute them, hence no royalty check.
https://photocopyrightlaw.com/are-photos-posted-online-in-the-public-domain/
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And this one is even more cut and dried than that. The photo was shot by an AP photographer, not the POA member. So the only person with a royalty claim is the photographer, not the POA member. And, since they work for AP, clearly signed away those rights properly from the beginning.
 
172andyou said:
I bet they would chuckle, hit delete and read the next email in their inbox.
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I've had success with one entity by simply calling the general counsel's office and asking for the name and address of their agent to receive service of process in my state.
172andyou said:
And this one is even more cut and dried than that. The photo was shot by an AP photographer, not the POA member. So the only person with a royalty claim is the photographer, not the POA member. And, since they work for AP, clearly signed away those rights properly from the beginning.
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Simply taking the photo does not entitle the photographer or whomever they may have sold their rights in the image to boundlessly exploit the image for commercial gain.

For example, aren't you presuming that the AP has a release from the pilot of that aircraft for the commercial use of em's likeness? And the owner of the aircraft under that registration -- the photo inherently identifies him as well. Did the owner sign a release? I'm not familiar enough to know if that paint scheme is OEM, but there may be IP vested in that, too.
 
DJTorrente said:
Simply taking the photo does not entitle the photographer or whomever they may have sold their rights in the image to boundlessly exploit the image for commercial gain.

For example, aren't you presuming that the AP has a release from the pilot of that aircraft for the commercial use of em's likeness? And the owner of the aircraft under that registration -- the photo inherently identifies him as well. Did the owner sign a release? I'm not familiar enough to know if that paint scheme is OEM, but there may be IP vested in that, too.
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I am not presuming that. No.
 
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