Repairs and valuations.

[John Spartan]

I really don’t know anything about how major crash repairs affect planes values. I assume negatively, of course. Can anyone with knowledge of how composite body metal wing airplanes are repaired evaluate this plane and tell me what they think? I would guess you would replace a wing outright? The engine would possibly have been replaced or at least the gear box? How does crumpled composite get fixed? If this was a car, I’d be looking for a salvage title. Does that happen in planes as well?

http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2018/02/tecnam-astore-n194ct-time-management.html

https://aircraftforsale.com/aircraf...e/astore/65722c55-e010-47c4-bacc-d8140cb850e3

 

[Bell206]

I really don’t know anything about how major crash repairs affect planes values.

That is usually very subjective to the buyer. For some people they view any repair history as a no-go, where others look at it differently. Same for values depending on the model. However, a good place to start when evaluating any repair history is to have the mechanic who will maintain your aircraft review it prior to making any decision. I've bought a number of damaged aircraft, repaired either the entire aircraft or just portions, then sold the repaired items with some at market value and some below market value. However, how Tecnam fits into that market I don't know.

Can anyone with knowledge of how composite body metal wing airplanes are repaired evaluate this plane and tell me what they think?

In what manner? Not much to tell from the links.

I would guess you would replace a wing outright?

Depends. With some aircraft OEM guidance, the wings like the fuselage can be repaired. For example, there are a number of Cirrus out flying that had major repairs after BRS event.

The engine would possibly have been replaced or at least the gear box?

No idea how Rotax handles that type damage. But I would expect it would be similar to Lycoming and Continental.

How does crumpled composite get fixed?

Depends on the OEM guidance.

If this was a car, I’d be looking for a salvage title. Does that happen in planes as well?

Since there are no titles for aircraft, the important issue is if the aircraft chain of ownership is unbroken in the eyes of the FAA so you can get the repaired aircraft registered in your name.

 

[M20K]

I really don’t know anything about how major crash repairs affect planes values. I assume negatively, of course.

If it is your plane that has had the major crash repairs, then yes, my guess is your sale price will be affected.

But if you're looking to buy a plane, you may see some savings in the price, but the bigger issue is how well was the plane repaired. The mechanic I went to when I lived back east would buy salvaged planes. He'd then take the NON or slightly damaged parts of one plane and put them together with another plane so you end up with basically a non damaged plane. So wings from one, empennage from another, etc., which ends up be the plane of the section that still has the data plate on it. Lots of entries in the Logbook... but you may have a perfectly good, or improved, plane.

 

[John Spartan]

If it is your plane that has had the major crash repairs, then yes, my guess is your sale price will be affected.

But if you're looking to buy a plane, you may see some savings in the price, but the bigger issue is how well was the plane repaired. The mechanic I went to when I lived back east would buy salvaged planes. He'd then take the NON or slightly damaged parts of one plane and put them together with another plane so you end up with basically a non damaged plane. So wings from one, empennage from another, etc., which ends up be the plane of the section that still has the data plate on it. Lots of entries in the Logbook... but you may have a perfectly good, or improved, plane.

I’ve definitely seen some references to damage in older planes when aluminum was pretty much all they used. That seems less concerning than composite. It sounds like access to the repair log would be pretty key. Knowing how the work was done not just seeing a sign off on work completed. It’s an interesting prospect