[rant]Cage free eggs[rant]

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    The little cowboy hats are damned expensive. ;)
     
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    I was just looking over some job postings from Foster Farms (no I have no intention of getting a job there.) One job description would have me oversee lots of chicks.

    I would assume there is a difference in the strategy for raising chickens for meat vs. for egg production.
     
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    Would you consider the job if they were Asian chicks?
     
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    Completely different genetics - almost not even the same animal. A broiler bird goes from hatch to slaughter in less than 50 days weighing +5 lbs. It takes us 130 days from hatch to get an egg layer up to 2.8 lbs and ready to lay eggs. Then she stays on the job for another 70 - 90 weeks of production.

    Broilers are rarely grown in cages, but it is becoming a more common practice due to disease and food safety concerns.


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    I hope you'll come to Gaston's this year and share more!! FASCINATING.
     
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    I came to Gaston's in 2006 or 2007 for the POA event with the wife and kids and we went back a few more times after that for the fishing. Not sure I've got the stones to run the 310 in there though.
     
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    You need to fly that twin into Mountain Home and then we'll all ferry you back into Gaston's!! ;-)
     
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    Certainly, it's good to have the healthy option when you get the Endo munchies.
     
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    So... After the 70-90 weeks of egg laying production do you chop them up for dog food or do they get sold as people food???:dunno:
     
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    Layers aren't people food chickens, so I would suppose they end up in the pet food market.
     
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    They get humanely euthanized. The carcasses are finely ground and an enzyme culture is added. This mixture is brought to a plant to be mixed with carriers, dried, and finished where it is ready to be added to pet food. They used to go into soup and other human products, but the genetics and management have gotten to the point where it is no longer economical to run them through a packing process.

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    What about feathers?
     
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    The enzyme package takes care of the feathers, quills, beaks, and toe nails. It is pretty slick.
     
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    Cool, so I take it the enzyme residue is also used a food meal product? Also sounds like something that would end up in cosmetics.
     
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    The whole carcass goes through the grinder immediately after euthanization. The enzymes are added to the slurry to process. It isn't a separate product.

    As a side note, we do have products that end up in cosmetics. We're part of a group that figured out how to pull the membrane out of the inside of the eggshell and solubilize it. Lots of really cool goodies in that tiny package.

    http://biova.com/
     
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    Most people have no clue what goes into cosmetics. I did kelp harvesting for a while, amazing what all that goes in.
     
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    Whose job is it to keep track of which hens stopped laying?

    (how do you know?)
     
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    Ya know, I'm losing my appetite for chicken noodle soup.
     
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    My neighbor used to do that with a sharp hatchet and a chopping block. :D
     
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    There are ways to check, but they aren't routinely done. Easiest way to tell visually is to see if her comb is developed. If not she isn't producing the hormones that are required to have the reproductive process going. Not very common.

    We track flock rate of lay daily with thousands of counters on egg belts and can tell if there was some type of general production issue. Disease, lighting, or feed issue.
     
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    Had my bride pick up a dozen of James' Goldrich Grade A Egg on the left, Costco Maxim's Grade AA Egg on the right. No color or picture enhancement or manipulation.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Coincidentally I looked for the Goldrich eggs in my local Walmart yesterday. Didn't see any.
     
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    So, which one was yummier?
     
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    Source closest to here is in Kansas...
     
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    It was the Elizabeth Walmart. Pretty close to Kansas.
     
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    Elizabeth Walmart sounds like a character in a romance novel.
     
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    You read romance novels? :D
     
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    I thought the same thing.....:confused:
     
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    Hey now, if I have to fake the metro thing at the club, I need some working knowledge of them, right?
     
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    Only for the articles...
     
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    Oh, finally just face it, you're gay.:rofl:
     
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    Trust me, the day after I would turn gay women would start falling out of the woodwork. Kinda the same way that happens after you get married.
     
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    Did you detect any difference in the color or firmness in the whites? I think those are a really great product and hope the category grows. It ain't cheap though.
     
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    Yeah, I can see the difference in both right there.
     
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    That was hilarious!
     
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    Agreed.........

    Nothing better then Wesson oil and rubber sheets.....:D
     
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    Our Walmart seems to carry either Sunny Meadow or Egglands Best. I never see the brand James mentions.