Quote reasonable?

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  1. TimRF79

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    Got a quote for transition steam gauges in a 182S to a G3X touch with GI275 backup and replacement of KAP140 with GFC500 (including new panels).
    Does ~$55k sound reasonable?
     
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    ouch.
     
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    Sounds too cheap
     
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    Sounds cheap
     
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    Does that include changing anything in the radio stack?
     
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    No changes planned, using the KA26; GTN750 and KX155
     
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    At that price, I’d get two. You deserve it.
     
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    Sounds high with no radios.
     
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    I’m sure the quote includes removing old AP and servos and probably the supporting brackets to allow a clean installation of the GFC 500. Your probably tearing into both radio stacks, left side new panel, etc
    Then there is interior removal and reinstall.
    You don’t mention it, I assume it’s the 10”.
    I assume it also includes the engine monitor option.

    These are some of the tasks and options people forget to think about.

    Still sounds a bit high, sure they weren’t quoting a G500 TXi?
     
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    Correct, included:
    10.6" G3X with EIS
    GI275 backup
    GFC500
    New panels (left and right)
    Vacuum removal
    HSI (and support items) removal
    KAP 140 removal
     
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    How many servos for GFC500?
    Where’s the shop?

    A GFc500 3 servo parts and installation runs about $17500. I pulled this from Lafayette avionics website.
    The parts alone for G3X and 275 run about $17500.
    So now we have $20000 unaccounted for.
    So figure $100/hr labor that’s 200 hours of labor to do everything you listed above, except the GFC labor already accounted for. A little high, but not unreasonable if labor rates are higher than my ballpark estimate. If this is California, probably spot on, if in southeast, not so much.
     
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    I think it is a 2 servo install on the GFC (no YD).
    Shop is in Texas (big city area), hence we have avionic rates of $100 to $125.
    So the Labor of $20k (which is spot-on) would be 200 hours to 160hours.
    I think the $17,500 from Lafayette does not removal of an existing AP
     
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    GFC 500 has 4 possible servos, don’t forget the optional electric trim, which I definitely would get.
    Does that include sales tax if applicable, I would think so?
    Yes, I included AP removal in the 200 hours estimate.
     
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    OK, yes, then 3 servos as the e-trim is included.
    Tax however is not.

    So it seems the quote is potentially a tad bit on the high side.
    Will try to get 2 to 4 more quotes as a reference point
     
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    EIS included or not in the G3X Touch install?

    I would be curious to know how well the GI 275 interacts with the rest of the system:
    - Is the altimeter setting set on the GI 275 reflected on the G3X Touch?
    - Can the GI 275 receive magnetometer data? I seem to recall that the GI 275 and G5 each needed their own GMU 11 for some reason.
    - Can the GI 275 receive nav data from the CAN bus?
    - Can the GI 275 operate in standby MFD mode and automatically (or manually) switch to ADI in case of G3X Touch outage? I'm guessing not (legally).