Process for going from SI to basicmed

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  1. Majid. M

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    hello everyone
    What is the process of going from SI 3rd class to basic med?
    Tired of wasting money and time with this SI?

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    If you have an issued SI, you can just let your medical expire and use basic med instead.
    If you have started an application that requires an SI, you have little option but to deal with getting it issued (and then you can move on to basic med).
     
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    If the SI requires action from you before the 3rd class expires, you have to do that, any SI conditions must be met until the 3rd class expires, otherwise the 3rd class becomes invalid and you can't go basicmed.
     
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    You must maintain the SI until it expires.

    Otherwise, you are free to change to basicmed whenever, but it doesn't remove the requirement to comply with the SI.

    What is the SI for?
     
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    SIs that are a shorter fuse than your 3rd almost always are marked "NOT VALID FOR ANY CLASS AFTER <a year from the last exam>." I'm not sure of any that require such BEFORE the medical that was issued vial them expires.

    Negative. You only have to go until the MEDICAL expired. An SI letter usually covers several renewals of a medical.
     
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    Thank you all.
     
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    I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of a SI that didn’t expire when the medical did, but assuming one exists:

    1) if the medical dies, the SI does too. You cannot apply a SI to someone who doesn’t hold a medical.
    2) if the SI expires first and is not required to be renewed, the medical lives on.

    again though, SIs almost always (always?) expire with the medical.
     
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    My OSA SI was issued for 5 years on a second-class medical. I was over 40 at the time. Likely, in line with your thoughts, the intent was that it would cover the longest-lasting possible medical issuance, but it was not "tailored" to me, so to speak.
     
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    Negative.

    My liver SI was only good for one year. When it expired I was on Basic Med. In fact, I got Basic within a week or so of getting my 3rd class and never bothered about the 3rd again.
     
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    This is the correct answer. Once you pass the "not valid after" date on your medical certificate you can operate under BasicMed if all other BasicMed criteria are met. It's a topic well covered all over this forum including citations to FAA documentation stating such.

    You must comply with the terms of your SI for as long as you hold a medical under that SI. Failing to do so would risk the FAA revoking your medical, thus making you ineligible for BasicMed. Once your MEDICAL certificate expires you are not beholden to the terms of the SI. The FAA cannot request additional information in reference to the SI letter. They can still request additional information per 14 CFR 68.11.

    It's actually a common occurrence for the SI letter to have an expiration that is well in excess of the validity period for a medical certificate issued under the authority of that SI letter. Just depends on the condition.
     
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    It’s also common for the SI to expire before the medical. Mine did. Once the SI date has passed, the medical is no longer valid.

    Note that you can have both Basic Med and a class 3 at the same time.
     
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    I thought they stick a "NOT VALID FOR ANY CLASS AFTER mm/yy" restriction on it when they want to shorten things. Certainly did back when I was still under an SI. I had to keep getting reissued annually on my third.
     
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    While we are on the subject of SI, let me ask another question.
    Does FAA let you go after your SI is expired?
    My SI goes all the way to 2025. ( lucky me ) Will I be free or FAA will come up with another requirement after 2025?

    Be safe..
     
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    Depends on the SI. For some the FAA will allow you to return to a regular issuance (with the caveat that if you get some recurrence that you have to stop flying and notify them) and some are forever.

    But as previously specified, as far as basic med goes, the SI letter expiry doesn't mean anything. Once you allow your medical (even with the not-valid after restriction) expire, the SI no longer applies and you are free to deal with your own conscience and the evaluation of your doctor on basic med.
     
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    Same here.