Possible new mortgage scam?

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I just finished dealing with a third party mortgage issue that I haven't seen before. I got a letter a while back from Altisource indicating that I still owed a balance of ~$500 for processing and transfer fees on a mortgage to a house. Well, the problem was I paid off the principle due by their pay-off notice, and sold the house more than 4 years ago. The new owner got a clear title, subject to their mortgage lien of course, and my name is no longer associated with the property.

The next letter I got was a warning that they were going to foreclose and seek penalties. I finally wrote back and told them the deal, and said they really should foreclose on me, because I don't own the property anymore. Oh by the way, you aren't getting any money from me either.

Well, after that the next letter changed tune a little bit, and said if I didn't pay up they were going to report my default to the credit agencies. I said go ahead, and I'll just contact them with my pay-off, and payment history, and the clear title issued by the title company to the new owners.

So, I contacted the new title policy holder for the new owners and during a phone consult we chatted about this, and I sent them a copy of the latest demand, and said they should look into it, because they were the title policy issuer. Of course, they didn't care a whit(typical title policy co) and it didn't affect their policy holder. So, I called back and said if I get dunned for this fee, I'm going to attach a lien to the new title, and then they will have to deal with it.

Finally, I sent the last letter to Altisource a few weeks ago warning them that false reporting of credit negatives is a federal crime, and that they could be liable for triple damages plus court costs if they pursue potentially damaging and erroneous credit info to an agency, and today I got their final demand which says that their records show I still owe the money, but they are not going to report it to the credit agencies, just that it will be marked in their 'system' as a default on loan and I may have trouble getting a mortgage in the future.

Be wary of anyone you've done business with in the past that sends you a demand letter, and by all means, save your transaction papers for 10 years. I didn't borrow from Altisource, but the people I did sold the note to them, and they are pretty horrible. Sadly, I had no choice in that loan pkg to deny them reselling the paper because the terms were really good at the time.
 
What a pile of crap. I know a few that really got hosed with school loans that have been bought & sold X times and each time they jacked around with penalties and interest.
 
Hope it doesn't bite me later but I don't answer these scams. Once they know you care or at least are a breathing human you get targeted as a proven target.
 
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Hope it doesn't bit me later but I don't answer these scams. Once they know you care or at least are a breathing human you get targeted as a proven target.

I usually just toss these in the trash, and that's what I did with the first two. The third one had a bunch of PII in it, and it made me mad they were mailing out my PII to an address that I usually don't use. No way of knowing if they were sending it to me, or to someone who moved in later. So, that got me started and in the same letter I told them they were wrong. So, I didn't put it in the first post because it wasn't germane to the scam at hand, but my main reason for writing them back was to warn them they are obligated to protect my PII.
 
What a pile of crap. I know a few that really got hosed with school loans that have been bought & sold X times and each time they jacked around with penalties and interest.

Not sure how this is possible. A contract was signed. IIRC it can't be changed just because someone now owns the receiving end of the contract. Unless of course, someone was foolish enough to accept terms that allowed them to jack with the penalties and interest.
 
Not sure how this is possible. A contract was signed. IIRC it can't be changed just because someone now owns the receiving end of the contract. Unless of course, someone was foolish enough to accept terms that allowed them to jack with the penalties and interest.

I don't know specifics but it has something to do with consolidations too and the many servicers in between.


I'm glad I hold a letter saying "Congratulations on your complete repayment of your student loan".
 
Trouble is, for ever one of the "smart, informed, and knows what to do" folks like you, Doc, they find 7 or 8 of the ones that fall for it.
 
Trouble is, for ever one of the "smart, informed, and knows what to do" folks like you, Doc, they find 7 or 8 of the ones that fall for it.

That, or there was some language in there about 'settlement' charge that I skimmed over. A certain percent of dolts will call them, beg mercy, ask if they will accept $250 and close the deal and of course they will! Found money!
 
I believe that's history.

EDIT: Apparently history is political. Move along now. Nothing to see here since the MC zapped the history.
 
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Another thing to check is the county records.

When I paid off the house, the mortgage company filed a release with the county for me and my wife.

At that point the property is free and clear per the mortgage lien holder.
 
The political posts reported by several users have been removed, by vote of the MC. This is not the Spin Zone. Let's keep on topic!
 
I was particularly annoyed with the title co. They sent me the typical title release info form, which I had to fill out to transfer the title to the new owner, and it was extensive as usual and I filled it all out for them to get my money, and a clean title policy. Then, when I am trying to help them avoid trouble on the title with their policy they just blew me off!

Title policy is another scam for a different thread.
 
Forward all that paperwork to your State's Attorney General's office.

If they get enough of those, they might be motivated to do something about it.

--Carlos V.
 
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