Plane skids off end of runway Greenville [SC] Downtown

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  1. Possum

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    Nice plane. Glad everyone is okay.
     
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    5393’ one, and just about 4000’ for the cross runway. I didn’t see the actual weather.
     
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    Baron 58. N59PR.
     
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    I’ve landed that runway. Seemed plenty long to me.
     
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    The restaurant is good, but not THAT good.
     
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    Flown in there a few times, the restaurant isn't bad, really good burgers, and 15% off if you show up in an airplane!
     
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    A lot of crappy weather as of late.

    Also glad no one was hurt.
     
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    So you're saying they got a really big discount?
     
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    Cool they get to walk away. Will be curious what he couldn’t see...
     
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    Any idea what the wx was at the time?
     
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    Yeah that's nice but what was the ceiling/visa at the airport? Pilot said he didn't see it, assuming he means the runway.
     
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    Ceiling/vis low. :D
     
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    You're a big help Brian! :mad: ;)
     
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  17. Possum

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    It appears that the owner of the plane also owns "Hall's Chophouse" , which are very exclusive restaurants with locations in both Greenville and Charleston. Best guess is that the owner was making the Charleston to Greenville trip to check on things. The Charleston location has often been the #1 rated Charleston restaurant on TripAdvisor. It is the place where a Cirus and a Bonanza owner would enjoy a meal. :D
    https://hallschophouse.com/
    https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaur...alls_Chophouse-Charleston_South_Carolina.html
     
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    Only if the Cirrus owner was buying? :)
     
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    Based on this time info from the article "Johnson said firefighters received a call at 10:23 a.m. about an aircraft in distress. They arrived three minutes later and found the plane had crashed down an embankment during a landing attempt", so the accident must have been around that time.

    So, I looked up the AWOS history at GMU for that general time period. Below are three reports from 1418Z to 1430Z (1018 to 1030 Local). That time conversion required me to use math so it could be wrong.

    KGMU 031430Z 21004KT 3SM -RA BR BKN008 OVC016 23/22 A3015 RMK AO2 RAB10 P0004 T02280222
    KGMU 031425Z 22004KT 1 1/2SM -RA BR BKN008 OVC016 23/22 A3015 RMK AO2 RAB10 P0004 T02280222
    KGMU 031418Z 20005KT 1 1/2SM +RA BR SCT007 BKN010 OVC017 23/22 A3015 RMK AO2 RAB10 P0004 T02280222

    I think all of that raw data stuff means the weather was indeed crappy. But again, I could be wrong.

    But to be certain, I dialed in the super secret decoder ring and got this info:

    Text: KGMU 031430Z 21004KT 3SM -RA BR BKN008 OVC016 23/22 A3015 RMK AO2 RAB10 P0004 T02280222
    Temperature: 22.8°C ( 73°F)
    Dewpoint: 22.2°C ( 72°F) [RH = 96%]
    Pressure (altimeter): 30.15 inches Hg (1021.1 mb)
    Winds: from the SSW (210 degrees) at 5 MPH (4 knots; 2.1 m/s)
    Visibility: 3 sm ( 5 km)
    Ceiling: 800 feet AGL
    Clouds: broken clouds at 800 feet AGL, overcast cloud deck at 1600 feet AGL
    Weather: -RA BR (light rain, mist)

    Text: KGMU 031425Z 22004KT 1 1/2SM -RA BR BKN008 OVC016 23/22 A3015 RMK AO2 RAB10 P0004 T02280222
    Temperature: 22.8°C ( 73°F)
    Dewpoint: 22.2°C ( 72°F) [RH = 96%]
    Pressure (altimeter): 30.15 inches Hg (1021.1 mb)
    Winds: from the SW (220 degrees) at 5 MPH (4 knots; 2.1 m/s)
    Visibility: 1.50 sm ( 2.41 km)
    Ceiling: 800 feet AGL
    Clouds: broken clouds at 800 feet AGL, overcast cloud deck at 1600 feet AGL
    Weather: -RA BR (light rain, mist)

    Text: KGMU 031418Z 20005KT 1 1/2SM +RA BR SCT007 BKN010 OVC017 23/22 A3015 RMK AO2 RAB10 P0004 T02280222
    Temperature: 22.8°C ( 73°F)
    Dewpoint: 22.2°C ( 72°F) [RH = 96%]
    Pressure (altimeter): 30.15 inches Hg (1021.1 mb)
    Winds: from the SSW (200 degrees) at 6 MPH (5 knots; 2.6 m/s)
    Visibility: 1.50 sm ( 2.41 km)
    Ceiling: 1000 feet AGL
    Clouds: scattered clouds at 700 feet AGL, broken clouds at 1000 feet AGL, overcast cloud deck at 1700 feet AGL
    Weather: +RA BR (heavy rain, mist)

    So, in this low time VFR pilot's opinion... yep.... crappy. But for an IFR dude, probably no big deal. I do not know if the PIC has his IR. That information is accessible though on www.faa.gov. I just chose not to dig for it. You, kind reader, may do so at your own leisure.

    Disclaimer: Above analysis was done by an amateur (a dog no less) based on information obtained online. As such, the above analysis should not be used to make decisions or pass judgment on the qualifications, skills, or judgement of any person living, dead, or imaginary.
     
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    Wet runway with a downhill slope. What could possibly go wrong. Bet he wishes he landed on the runway that was 1300 feet longer about now.
     
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    Thanks for pulling the Wx Skydog. The frequency and content of the sequence reports suggest changing conditions. It also suggests to this pilot that conditions on the end of one runway could be much different than the other, and changing.

    Nothing tricky about KGMU airport except for slope, the long one having most of the slope. As I recall. Have to assume he was IR rated and flying a plan and an approach. The airspace can be a bit tricky VFR due to 2 other nearby controlled airports.

    I fly into there 2-4 times a year.


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    What I was impressed by when I stopped there in June was the "aviation playground" just outside the restaurant. It had a runway, an airplane on a stick, and lots of other aviation-related stuff. It was a really good way to break up the trip with our 1.5 year old. :)
     
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    That park is awesome. My eight year old kept us there at least an hour longer than we expected.
     
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    Word is he landed long, very long.
     
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    Unfortunate,a long landing that didn’t go right.
     
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    Courtesy of airboss127 on Instagram.
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    I'm assuming they know how to remove it as to not cause further damage?
     
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    It appears that way.
     
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    I don't think they need to worry about further damage. Methinks that is one less Baron in the fleet. :(
     
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    I've seen planes in much worse shape return to the air. Remember that a new Baron is a million plus a Skyhawk in price.
     
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    Price of a new Baron is irrelevant. Price of the repair vs. the insured value is all that matters here. Two engines plus a new wing at least, this is going to be well into the six-figure zone to fix, and twins aren't worth all that much right now so it may well be insured for less. Take the check, go find another used one, start over.
     
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